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  • This is a very good tutorial. Great job :D  
    ok so i tried this method for a while but i didn't get any results :(

    usualy it goes like this: i get up with an alarm clock or naturally(mostly in the early morning) then when i don't sleep right away or become to awake i do the cycles. while i do them i usually forget to and i do 1 or 2 extra cycles,just to make sure, then i sleep, but i don't have any lucids, or dreams for that matter.

    is there any idea why it doesn't work for me??????  
    Thank you so much for taking the time to post this. I am a novice with Lucid Dreaming and I thought my best chance would be with DEILD. However, I only get up at night to use the restroom, so that really ruins any chances of DEILDing. But with SSILD using the bathroom is helpful? Looks like my kind of Induction method!  
    I am confused by your terminology at point 5. It seems sometimes you use the word "step" to apply to different things - at one point you seem to use the word "step" where the word "cycle" would've made matters clearer. Please clarify what you mean by this:

    "As far as timing goes we are flexible, but in general each step should take no fewer than 30 seconds."

    Now, do you mean step as meaning: each sensory focus, the cycle, or what?  
    Thanks CI.

    Incidentally, I notice that there's a kind of "pre-cycle cycle" added to the technique now that wasn't there before when you published on DV and other places. How do you decide how you will experiment with the technique? Do you rely on others to improve the technique or do you come up with experiments and get others to test them? If so, how do you get ideas for experiments?  
    Is this correct?

    On returning to bed, if performed verbatim (which it won't be, of course!) we get this:

    MINI-CYCLES

    Mini-cycle one:

    Focus on sight: for a few seconds
    Focus on hearing: for a few seconds
    Focus on Somesthetic Senses (Touch): for a few seconds

    Mini-cycle two:

    Focus on sight: for a few seconds
    Focus on hearing: for a few seconds
    Focus on Somesthetic Senses (Touch): for a few seconds

    Mini-cycle three:

    Focus on sight: for a few seconds
    Focus on hearing: for a few seconds
    Focus on Somesthetic Senses (Touch): for a few seconds

    Mini-cycle four:

    Focus on sight: for a few seconds
    Focus on hearing: for a few seconds
    Focus on Somesthetic Senses (Touch): for a few seconds

    Mini-cycle five:

    Focus on sight: for a few seconds
    Focus on hearing: for a few seconds
    Focus on Somesthetic Senses (Touch): for a few seconds

    Mini-cycle six:

    Focus on sight: for a few seconds
    Focus on hearing: for a few seconds
    Focus on Somesthetic Senses (Touch): for a few seconds

    PROPER-CYCLES

    Proper-cycle one:

    Focus on sight: for thirty seconds
    Focus on hearing: for thirty seconds
    Focus on Somesthetic Senses (Touch): for thirty seconds

    Proper-cycle two:

    Focus on sight: for thirty seconds
    Focus on hearing: for thirty seconds
    Focus on Somesthetic Senses (Touch): for thirty seconds

    Proper-cycle three:

    Focus on sight: for thirty seconds
    Focus on hearing: for thirty seconds
    Focus on Somesthetic Senses (Touch): for thirty seconds

    Proper-cycle four:

    Focus on sight: for thirty seconds
    Focus on hearing: for thirty seconds
    Focus on Somesthetic Senses (Touch): for thirty seconds  
    Thanks Cosmic. Looking forward to experimenting!  
    Really like this method! Some odd FA's with it all right. Lots of us over at World of Lucid Dreaming are finding this effective ( and an interesting experience). I see how some try to liken it to that OBE 'The Phase' method ( Michael R someone; forget the name); but I find this SSILD is certainly not the same as his. This one is far less dependant on 'precision'. I do think the freedom to move if you need to; and the more 'relaxed' approach has something to do with the success.  
    How long can a lucid dream take. I m working to stabilize my lucid dreams  
    Is the order see/hear/feel important? Does the tech work just as well if you did, say, feel/see/hear?  
    This is my idea. Let me know what you think:

    You could make the feeling part the "default" - by that I mean it's the first part of the cycle you do (thus feel/see/hear) and it's the FIRST one you go back to after you lose focus/drift to sleep slightly.  Instead of just feeling the body, you could attempt a "gentle" levitation instead.  
    I have used a fan to help me do SSILD. For the seeing step I'll "see" the wall behind the fan. For the hearing step I'll just listen to the fan. For the feeling step I'll just feel the breeze from the fan hitting my face.  
    Try to wake up before 7:30, maybe 6 or 5  
    It has nothing to do with sleep paralysis. In fact, Lucid Dreaming has NOTHING to do with sleep paralysis, and that argument could be made against hypnogogia too.

    I don't think it has anything to do with age. If at all, it's probably easier to do it younger.  
    After precisely a year of having little successful Lucid Dreams (4-5) This seems perfect!
    Thank you thank you THANK YOU for inspiring me to try again. I have gained a lot of hope from this!  
    Hi Cosmic Iron!
    Thank you so much for this tutorial!
    I have one question: If I get really tired after just a few cycles, should i go to sleep or wake myself up to start all over again?

    Greetings from Germany  
    thank you! :)  
    Hello Cosmic Iron:)
    I'm a LD beginner. The past 3 weeks I have practised DILD and have had 3 lucid dreams, the first two very short. I found your tutorial on Dreamviews yesterday, and this night I had 3 (long-ish) lucid dreams! LD increase of 100%, it is crazy. Just wanted to say thank you:)  
    Cant wait to try this method out thank u so very much for posting  
    Hi, I tried this the other night but it was hard to get back to sleep. While I was doing SSILD though I felt weird vibrations in my chest-belly. When I tried to go to sleep after doing SSILD it was hard to fall asleep, I had a qeezy feeling in and below my chest area like that feeling you get when youre really high up and look down. I did a reality check and wasnt dreaming though I think amd when I did fall asleep I didnt become lucid. It was my first night trying though but is there a way to solve this or any tips?  
    Has anyone else noticed that SSILD has an effect on their libido? It's definitely a positive effect! I do SSILD and wake up in the morning like a dog on heat.  
    Yes, you can probably do that with the lights on or your eyes open, if you manage to sleep after that.  
    don't give up! that pesemistic attitude is probably why you failed at it! it seems to me that the only thing you are lacking is proper dream recall. Until you can semi-consistently (4 days out of the week) remember at the very least 2 whole dreams, dont give up. if even after that you aren't successful and you still want to have an LD, then seek out help. ONLY until then, do you even think about giving up.  
    Pun intended?

    Hi, currently I'm a beginner without even one LD under my belt, I'm just wondering if we can practice the technique before we actually do it? Like practice before going to sleep?

    I'm going to try it tonight since it's 20:27 PM here, so fingers crossed.
    If it works be sure to expect a lot - I mean some thanks. *cough*.
    Thanks for posting this anyways.
    -Anonymoose  
    Thank you for the clearly explained method! I'll try this method tonight, and will report back if it induces a lucid dream. :)
    ~SleepyCat3  
    This could be an experiment to try: I started doing relaxation exercises in the evening - usually between 6.30 and 7.30 pm. Without much deliberate effort I started using SSILD as a meditation technique. Suddenly my dreams became very vivid and my recall was very good. I just did normal SSILD about 7pm, then nothing - just went to sleep normally about 10pm without even expecting anything. My thoughts were not even about LDing.  Who would like to try?  
    Hi Cosmic Iron. Is there any chance you could share your first students journal? As a help guide for other novices?  
    Thanks to this technique, that I tried yesterday for the first time, I could turn a nightmare into a lucid dream and then I had another lucid dream after that. I already had a few lucid dreams before this, but it was a month since I had my last lucid dream. I think I'll use this technique more often. Thank you for the detailed tutorial, it's well written and easy.  
    CI, This is great of you to post all this. It will help many people. I do have some questions though regarding something you posted on dreamviews-

    "For beginners you can try this -- you wake up from SSILD. You are absolutely certain you are awake. Don't despair. Relax and allow your head to sink into the pillow. Focus on your nose and imagine that you are lifting your hand to pinch it. You probably will feel some weight on your nose and that's great. That sensation will help you. It is the sensation caused by your imaginary fingers pinching it. Once you manage to feel that your fingers have grabbed your nose you can try breathe. If you can breath the you are already in a dream. Don't let go of your fingers,. Keep focusing on them and roll out of your bed. Voila, you are in your dream world. Keep in mind -- I'm not talking about false awakening here. This is real awakening. But if you do what I say, with practice, you may be able to turn these real awakenings into lucid dreams, even AFTER you have physically moved. That's the beauty of SSILD."

    This isn't clear to me.

    OK, we wake up after having done SSILD. Allow our head to sink into pillow. That I get. But the nose pinching. We should just *imagine* it being done by our fingers? Because you say "If you can breath the you are already in a dream". I don't understand this. If we are actually awake, and just imagining fingers on our nose, then we would be able to breathe as well. Also... Should we physically roll out of bed now, even if we ARE awake, just to establish the habit?  Sorry if I'm being slow about this. And thanks for your help!
      
    Hi! I like how the steps are simple and can't wait to try it out, but is it required to get out of bed when the alarm wakes you? It's really hard for me to get back to sleep if I move around.  
    Thanks for the method! I'll try lucid dreaming tonight.

    I've been trying for a few days now, and I keep a dream diary and do reality checks. I even ask my friends to ask me 'Are you dreaming?' throughout the day. I really hope this works!  
    Hi First time trying SSILD and it worked! It was my my first time LD ever. It started by a FA but in completely different bedroom. RT done by pinching my nose. It lasted copuple of minutes (I was flying xD) but then it changed to different dream and I lost my lucidity. Thanks again for posting this.  
    Do you think ADHD would make this harder? I tried last night and had trouble focusing on the cycles. I did not end up falling asleep though, so I couldn't really try again, also wasn't a FA. I eventually ended up falling asleep for good.
      
    Hi cosmic iron, I was hoping if you could explain some details about the technique.

    I've been practicing this technique for several months with little results and I believe the reason for that is because I kept having expectations with how the effects of the technique is. You've warned us about that , but I suppose it took me longer to realize that.

    After that it became easier to do it, can't say I haven't had a lucid dream, but I remember quite a few dreams last night.

    Despite that is there any advice you could give me to properly do the technique and make any more progress.

    I can definitely see the potential of this technique so if you have anything I would love to hear it.

    An issue I still struggle with is the fact I can't seem to fall asleep quickly.

    Whether i'm Just going to bed or doing the technique.

    My schedule:

    11-12 pm-4-5 am

    Get up a bit from the bed then practice the technique go to sleep. Issue I noticed is that I kinda forget to keep doing the technique. I think it's lack of focus, but again I have trouble sleeping.

    Any ideas.