主题:Kraoms WorkbookSo it's called Kraom's workbook because my name was 8adj8 but to be able to use the chat my name had to be changed sooo yea..
Lucid dreaming tasks
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(/) Stabilize my dreams better
-Successfully stabilized a dream pretty well. (Want to stabilize more before considering this complete.)
(/) Fly again
-Didn't full on fly but I did float. (And I wasn't trying to fly, I was trying to float.)
( ) Be a vampire
( ) Ride a unicorn
( ) Drive a car
( ) Have a conversation with a dream character
( ) Control an element
( ) Use the internet
Induction Methods
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1. DILD
2. WILD
3. WBTB
Dream Signs
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None to speak of at the moment
How I'm going to stabilize
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First, I found that focus on a single object (usually vibrantly colored) helps me to keep my dreams stabilized.
Second, focusing on my hands also works.
Reality checks I use
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Plugging nose and trying to breath.
Analyzing hands.
This morning I had a successful WBTB. I had woken up at around 2:55 AM and way laying there doing my mantras trying to go back to sleep and then an alarm went off that I had set to improve my dream recall and then attempt a WBTB afterwards. I turned the alarm off and went back to my mantras. The last time I checked the time wast at 3:46 AM, after that the next thing I remember I was in my dream. Feel free to read about the actual dream in my journal.
Hey adj! Welcome to the class!
Ooooh and congrats on the lucid! It's great that you were focused and remembered what to do, which is very hard for most people.
Be sure to check out the links and resources compilation in the main class thread, you might find something helpful. We also encourage you to join the DVA chats, if you can
Good luck and happy dreaming!
Hey Kraom, good job on the LD last night. So you have LDs on a regular basis nowadays? Have you considered also using awareness-based techniques, like Sporadic Awareness Technique or All Day Awareness? They can be helpful if you rely on DILDs a lot. Also, do you have a general plan for your next LD? I find having a plan makes my LDs a little more productive.
Welcome to the class!
Yea I do usually have lucid dreams on a regular basis and by that I mean around every other morning. I have read the All Day Awareness tutorial and have started practicing that which I think will help me a lot. And my plan for my next lucid dream is to work on my stabilization more, I was thinking this morning that I might just sit somewhere in the dream and think to myself and once I feel that I did well enough stabilizing I'll attempt one of my dream goals, maybe full fledged flight this time.
Originally Posted by Kraom:
Yea I do usually have lucid dreams on a regular basis and by that I mean around every other morning.
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Wow, that's really good. You wrote earlier that you've been LDing for two years, but are you a natural? Good luck stabilizing, I'm positive you'll be soaring through the skies in no time!
Originally Posted by Caenis:
Wow, that's really good. You wrote earlier that you've been LDing for two years, but are you a natural?
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Well, when I first learned about LDing like I said it was two years ago and it took a long time to have my first lucid dream. After I had my first dream I started having lucid dreams with a lot more frequency. Only problem was that my dreams were all short or I would overexcite myself and wake up. And I stopped practicing lucid dreaming a while ago and recently just remembered it again because I had a lucid dream around two weeks ago. So now it seems pretty natural to me just to realize in my dreams that I'm dreaming from any little thing, sometimes even passively knowing just oh this is a dream even if nothing triggered that thought.
Lucid dreaming tasks Updated!
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(/) Stabilize my dreams better
-Successfully stabilized a dream pretty well. (Want to stabilize more before considering this complete.)
(/) Fly again
-Didn't full on fly but I did float. (And I wasn't trying to fly, I was trying to float.)
( ) Be a vampire
( ) Ride a unicorn
( ) Drive a car
( ) Have a conversation with a dream character
( ) Control an element
( ) Use the internet
( ) Task of the month- Drink magical potion
( ) Spawn a DC as a dream companion
( ) Attempt respawning previous DC companion
( ) Telekinesis
( ) Time dilation
( ) Meet my dream guide
Also, I will be gone the 4th and 5th of July. But I still should be able to update my journal and workbook via my phone.
Attempted a WILD last night with the free-fall method, I was unsuccessful, although there were many disruptions like a lot.. I'll probably attempt one again when I get back from camping. I did recall and journal a dream, in my physical journal and I'll post that later. I'm leaving to go camping in a few minutes so I'll probably only be on each morning until Friday to update my workbook and journal.
So, I ended up trying a WILD again and was unsuccessful again, still so many disruptions. Definitely not trying another til I get back from camping and when I do it will be coupled with a WBTB, so I don't get disturbed. Although camping seems non-beneficial to lucid dreaming I was able to practice my ADA. And my dream recall was insane I recalled around 7 different dreams.
Yeah if I'm in a different place, especially sleeping in a different place, I can end up having better recall and more vivid dreams. Also more lucid success. Not counting times where there are too many disruptions though, like you mentioned having. When do you come back from camping, Friday?
Alright, so I'm back from camping. While I was gone my recall was really good, but not my lucidity probably because the way I was sleeping wasn't very comfortable. Now that I'm back I can update my dream journal since I couldn't do that from my phone. Also, I'm going to revamp my sleep schedule with set times. And I will be attempting more WILD's but I'm going to be using the WBTB WILD method since there are so many noises at the time I'm trying to do it, also might try it with guided relaxation to see if that works.
Good luck Kraom! Wurlman's been talking about guided relaxation, and it works very well for him. Hope you see good results with it too.
I tried another WILD with guided relaxation last night and was unsuccessful. But I fell that I've been going about WILDs wrong, instead of coupling them with a WBTB, like I've read is suggested, I attempt them around the time I would be going to sleep. Also I didn't really like the guided relaxation tape or whatever I should call it and so I might try a different one. So, tonight I will attempt a WILD coupled with a WBTB. Aside from all that after my WILD attempt failed I decided I would just go to sleep. But I couldn't go to sleep because right outside my window there was a party going on and they were extremely loud. So last night just wasn't a good night. Once I get back to my mom's house I should be doing well again, but that won't be til Monday.
So I had a successful DILD this morning after attempting a WBTB WILD. Will post it in my dream journal after this. I was feeling a little bit down this morning when i woke up at 7:50 because my dream recall sucked and I didn't remember much. Also I was thinking about how I hadn't had a lucid in a while, well a while for me. But I decided to try a WILD and then I kept swallowing because my throat felt weird so I decided I'd just try going back to sleep. It took me a while to fall back asleep, but it was all worth it.
Originally Posted by Kraom:
So I had a successful DILD this morning after attempting a WBTB WILD. Will post it in my dream journal after this. I was feeling a little bit down this morning when i woke up at 7:50 because my dream recall sucked and I didn't remember much. Also I was thinking about how I hadn't had a lucid in a while, well a while for me. But I decided to try a WILD and then I kept swallowing because my throat felt weird so I decided I'd just try going back to sleep. It took me a while to fall back asleep, but it was all worth it.
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That's great! It always gets hard when you go through a period of not having much luck, happens to all of us. Just need to use that as motivation to keep striving until you succeed!
Try not to worry about swallowing when you're doing a WILD. You don't stop swallowing when you're sleeping. Thinking about not swallowing is going to be worse than actually just swallowing.
Originally Posted by RareCola:
Try not to worry about swallowing when you're doing a WILD. You don't stop swallowing when you're sleeping. Thinking about not swallowing is going to be worse than actually just swallowing.
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I'll try this tonight, well tomorrow morning I guess it'll be. I actually read a WILD tutorial today that I think will help mzzkc's WILD guide..
Originally Posted by Kraom:
I'll try this tonight, well tomorrow morning I guess it'll be. I actually read a WILD tutorial today that I think will help mzzkc's WILD guide..
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While WILD tutorials are great, a lot of them aren't very helpful. The main portion of WILDing is literally just laying there, still, and waiting (which could take up to about 2 hours). The important part of WILDing, which is not covered in any WILD tutorials I've found, is the mental preparation.
If you're really interested in WILDing I suggest you look at the links under the WILD section in this thread:
http://www.dreamviews.com/f151/tutor...lation-133466/ Originally Posted by RareCola:
If you're really interested in WILDing I suggest you look at the links under the WILD section in this thread:
http://www.dreamviews.com/f151/tutor...lation-133466/--------
Hmm I'll read the WILD section of this. Also thanks that link has other things I was looking for as well.
Ok, don't have much to say today other than I had another DILD this morning, albeit a short one.. but still I was lucid nonetheless.
Alright so I guess I do have a little bit more to say now that I think about it. I did try another WILD this morning after waking up naturally but I stopped and went back to sleep. I decided to work more on the prep-work that Rarecola linked me to yesterday before I attempt another WILD. Also the past two mornings that I've had LDs before them I had done 4-5 SSILD reps. I don't know if this is having an effect on my LDs or not seeing as they are DILDs but I suppose it can't hurt to keep doing it. And last thing my sleep schedule is already fixed. I go to sleep at eleven and wake up naturally at 7:30-8:00.
Congrats on the lucids! I am going to try out SSILD, it looks like its working well for you and I hope I can experience the same success!
Originally Posted by eMCLucid:
Congrats on the lucids! I am going to try out SSILD, it looks like its working well for you and I hope I can experience the same success!
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Yea like I said I'm not sure whether it's due to SSILD or not but it seems possible so I'll keep doing it. Also I wish you the best of luck with it.
Woo, third lucid in a row. Again I did SSILD before going back to sleep around 5 AM and then I had another DILD, so I guess whatever I'm doing I'm definitely not going to be changing it. Oh and also I need to start doing RCs when I wake up because I've been having way too many false awakenings lately. Had one after my lucid this morning.
Awww nice! Very very nice indeed. Congratulations!
Well, I'm really getting into a groove now. Fourth lucid fourth morning in a row. Again technique was woke up did SSILD and then once in dream DILD. The dream I had was really odd though it was more like multiple dreams in one. Also, my recall is back to normal around 3-4 dreams remembered per morning. So yea I'll get to posting my latest dream in my DJ.
Awwww mannnn gimme some of that lucidity powah!
Originally Posted by paigeyemps:
Awwww mannnn gimme some of that lucidity powah!
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Haha would if I could.
That's amazing Kraom! Keep up the good work! Try to be more aware when you first wake up in bed too: which house are you in, which room? What do the other rooms look like that you might wind up waking up in? What happened when you went to bed? Touch stuff, etc.
That's really cool that your most recent dream was Inception-inspired. =p A little confusing, but interesting!
Originally Posted by Caenis:
That's really cool that your most recent dream was Inception-inspired. =p A little confusing, but interesting!
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Yea, I didn't even know what was going haha.. hence the dream journal entry title.
Anyways, I'll use your idea seems like it'll work well, been having too many FAs not to. I think I've had five in four days well a lot more if you count how I woke up in the room at my mom's house every time during my dream this morning.
My, streak has ended! Well sort of I guess. I did my normal routine woke up naturally like 4:42 AM SSILD go back to sleep, but then I woke up again and this time it was hard for me to fall back asleep. So eventually I did end up falling asleep again. But now like every ten minutes I would wake up. So I kept waking up and going back to sleep. I was still having dreams in these short periods and realized I was dreaming twice but it was too short and I just woke up every time.
Congrats on the lucids, Kraom! Shame that you didn't seem to sleep well last night, but at least there was a perk that came with waking up a lot. Waking up regularly probably helped to make you more aware while you were dreaming.
Your findings have inspired me to take up SSILD again. Good job and great lucids.
Alright, so this morning when I normally have my lucid dreams I woke up and messed up my SSILD I fell back asleep because I was worrying to much about trying to stay tired. So as a result no lucids today . Dream recall was meh bits and pieces of a few dreams and one really really long dream.
So, this morning I had another one of those morning where I kept waking up again very frequently. It's beneficial for recall and realizing I'm dreaming but I can't really have an actually lucid because the dream ends essentially right after I realize I'm dreaming. Also I messed up my SSILD again I keep falling asleep when I wake up, I guess I have to wake myself up just a little bit more before doing it.
Not much to say about this morning, I woke up around 4:52 feeling rather awake so I did my SSILD and then went back to sleep. And I did have another waking up a lot fit this morning but not every five minutes maybe about everyone twenty. Yep, after that all I know is that Hulk Hogan thinks I'm a bitch for not eating special K cereal, yea met him in soak city in a dream..
I'm glad you were sleeping a little more easily last night. Did you become lucid again in any of your dreams?
Hulk Hogan scolded you for not eating Special K? Good god. Have we arrived at the age where businesses insert commercials/product placement in dreams? :O
Originally Posted by Caenis:
I'm glad you were sleeping a little more easily last night. Did you become lucid again in any of your dreams?
Hulk Hogan scolded you for not eating Special K? Good god. Have we arrived at the age where businesses insert commercials/product placement in dreams? :O
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Yea in the time where I was waking up a lot I realized I was dreaming but you know I just woke up..
Also, yes they've infiltrated my dreams, better get some special K..
Hm. Have you considered trying DEILD? Might be worth a try, if you keep waking up.
Originally Posted by Caenis:
Hm. Have you considered trying DEILD? Might be worth a try, if you keep waking up.
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Yep, I was thinking about starting to try DEILDs.
Alright, SO had a lucid this morning.. yay, been a few days since my last one. So, this morning I actually was sleeping well, finally, and I woke up around my usual waking up time like 4:00 AM did my SSILD, without falling asleep this time, and then go back to sleep and lucid. I thought about trying a DEILD when I naturally woke up because I woke from a dream, kinda a nightmare of sorts, and still had my eyes closed hadn't moved, but seeing as I've never tried I thought I'd just do SSILD. And I'm glad I did. Oh, also I need to stop being lazy and write more in my dream journal.
Congrats on the LD! So glad to see SSILD working so well for you.
Well, this morning I woke up in a dream. And once in the dream I became lucid. Alright so now I did RCs even though I never ever do them. And they just proved to me why I don't do them. Two Rcs failed. So then I was like uhh okay maybe this isn't a dream, because I did wake up in a classroom maybe I was sleeping in class. So then I lost my lucidity because I now had convinced myself that it was real. So yea won't be using those RCs anymore.. >:C
Aw darn, that's a pain. One of the other students (I think it was Xanous?) stopped using RCs because he had the same trouble. If you become lucid and are aware enough to not need to RC, then yeah, don't bother. Perhaps just move on to stabilization.
I've not had a RC fail me, but I use the nose plug. I usually RC twice, because it's difficult to tell what the result of the test was the first time. But I usually either RC out of habit, or out of suspicion. It's uncommon for me to know that I'm definitely dreaming. Just do what works for you, kraom!
Alright so this morning no lucid but I didn't do any SSILD so maybe that's why. I was going to attempt a DEILD but when I awoke at my normal natural wake up time I kind of jolted awake. And I was tired so I just went back to sleep. Also I was at my dad's house and I seem to LD more frequently at my mom's.
Alright so I had a lucid this morning. Woke up around 4:43 AM checked my phones time and then did SSILD went back to sleep and had a lucid dream.And I finally full on flew this morning woo. Also, my stabilization is pretty good now I don't have to use any techniques like spinning or looking at my hands anymore as long as I'm focusing in the dream it's stable. Although this morning was weird because I had three FAs.. And some dreams within dreams. It was a little hectic. Anyways I'm going to get to posting in my dream journal.
That's great Kraom, good job! How long did your flying lucid last? It's a shame you didn't get to talk to that DC, I guess your dream wanted you to do something action-packed.
I'm impressed that SSILD is working so well for you. You've had a ton of LDs in such a short time! What do you think you'll do in your next LD? Talk to a DC without it disappearing?
Yea I'm hoping to have a conversation with a DC. I'm also going to start experimenting with time dilation. Anyways we'll see how it goes. Also the flying didn't last that long, but It's alright it was still enjoyable.
I just read your DJ, it sounded great. My first (only so far) flying experience I didn't feel much physically. It was a bit frustrating, so I think it's really cool that you felt the wind while flying.
Time dilation, or making your LDs last longer? Either way, exciting! Best of luck to you man, I hope you succeed. Tell us all about it if you do! I'll want to learn your methods.
So nothing really to report this morning. Other than I think I tend to lucid dream more at my mom's house.