• 主题:Ssild Test 30 Days
  • Hey there

    As there is much controversy behind SSILD technique, some say it doesn't work, some say it does work. I do believe it works. Because of this, I want to test this technique. I'll be using it for 30 days. I studied it very well, I hope I'm doing it right.

    I'll be posting results each day, and then sum that up.

    Remember that I'm just one person - everyone is different, the results shouldn't be taken seriously at 100%. It's just a simple test for me.

    I'm starting it tonight - I could start it tomorrow, but I had to wake up early for school and didn't want to lose sleep.  
    Good luck. I'd be interested if it works for you. I never used the technique but it seemed odd.  
    I think i will join you in your test, on the sideline.  
    Cool
    Everyone can join. More participations - better results.  
    I'll be giving it a shot too, starting tonight.  
    I will give it a go as well, been too dormant from lucids for too long haha ill be sure to post results  
    Day 1
    I did the SSILD when I went to bed (because it was always relaxing me a lot) and with WBTB.
    So I did the SSILD when I wen to bed, and I felt so damn good. I didn't want to move anything. And something weird happened. Sometimes I was gaining consciousness out of nothing. Like I was lying there for few minutes without consciousness, and them bam, I'm aware. I had a lot of hypnic jerks. My mind was thinking at it's own, just random thoughts. I was imagining some weird kicks and I had a hypnic jerk then xD. Then I was feeling some really weird feeling: I became aware out of nothing, and started feeling like I was spinning in space. It felt good, I was spinning and falling at medium speed. I was feeling like it sucks me into something. As I realized it, after like 10 seconds it gone away. I don't know what it was lol.

    WBTB:
    I woke up, felt really sleepy. I've drinked a glass of water, I went to toilet, and went back to bed. I did the SSILD 4 times, but it felt a bit different than I was doing it before sleep. I was like more aware. Then it felt like I couldn't fall asleep. I was lying there for like years. But then my alarm ringed

    It was FA, I believe. Well, that's the end.

    Lucids: 0 FAs: 1  
    Nice. That's a good start, DAY 1:
    I had similar results. As I laid there I began watching the different colors behind my eye lids and then started hearing a sort of buzzing sound and felt slight vibrations. As I continued to repeat the steps I began doing them all at once and started to get that spinning/falling feeling mromgwtf experienced(I have experienced this feeling many times a lot of times right after I lay down.) I kept repeating the steps until I was basically doing them subconsciously until I fell asleep. It did not induce a lucid dream however, I had a fairly vivid dream considering I haven't been able to have much success with recall lately(on behalf of my laziness lol). But I feel it's a good start and by the end of the month I will induce more than one lucid from this method. Good luck to the rest, ill be posting more results tomorrow  
    Day 1
    I tried the SSILD while laying in my bed at bedtime because it relaxes me and makes me fall asleep more quickly. I usually have troubles falling asleep due to my body's tendency to keep on moving, but relaxation usually calms me down. I woke up after about 5 hours and kept my body still and eyes closed because I was just too sleepy to wake up for a bit. I did the SSILD technique again and after one repetition my mind starting drifting away to random thoughts. It felt like I was on a swing going pretty fast, and I kind of liked it. I regained control and then I was upset because I didn't want the swinging to stop. These swinging sensations, along with accelerating or bouncing sensations, happen to me rarely. I fell asleep and had a fairly clear dream that I remember (not lucid), and those don't happen often. Next time I'll try to get up and then do the SSILD instead of staying still on my bed.  
    Day 1
    I also tried SSILD while going to bed, and let me say, if nothing else, this technique is GREAT to make yourself fall asleep quickly.

    While i had no success at bedtime, i woke up about 5 hours into sleep. I went to the bathroom, drank some water and returned to the sheets.

    After what felt like 5-6 reps, i think i dosed off, suddenly finding myself wide awake again... Only this time, i could not fall asleep (dream).

    I felt like i was laying there for 40 min and then, I was suddenly jolted awake 2 hours later (real time).

    I feel bad for getting tricked like that. :'(    
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    Lucids: 0 FAs: 1  
    I feel like SSILD is great for the way I wake up after every REM cycle. I often forger to do it though. It helps me gain awareness with each waking. It is supposed to help all forms of LD right? It seems to me to increase my DILD like crazy. I have been using it for 3 months with promising results when I remember. I would recommend it as an addition to things like meditation and normal DILDs.  
    I also hope this technique will bring forth some DILD's for me, since i have only ever had lucids during a nap, and i would really like to 1: have lucids more frequently and 2: experience what it is like (if it is any different) having a lucid during normal sleep.  
    Shoot for lucids in the 6th and 7th hour at first. Wake up at those times and SSILD. That seems to help me.

    But! I had an LD last night at like 130 after only two hours and a half of sleep, and it was really good.  
    Originally Posted by Buhl:
    Day 1
    I also tried SSILD while going to bed, and let me say, if nothing else, this technique is GREAT to make yourself fall asleep quickly.

    While i had no success at bedtime, i woke up about 5 hours into sleep. I went to the bathroom, drank some water and returned to the sheets.

    After what felt like 5-6 reps, i think i dosed off, suddenly finding myself wide awake again... Only this time, i could not fall asleep (dream).

    I felt like i was laying there for 40 min and then, I was suddenly jolted awake 2 hours later (real time).

    I feel bad for getting tricked like that. :'(    So you had a FA?

    I had it too

    If we practice SSILD, we have to know how to detect FAs, because there will be TONS of them.  
    Yea i had one. I think i will edit my post to include count like yours, just so we can sum up at the end. It would be interesting to know just how many FA's we will induce trying this.  
    Day 2
    Not much to say. Few cool things happened though. First was that when I was doing the SSILD, it felt like I was doing it for hour. The 4 series took SO LONG to complete I don't even. I think I felt asleep after second repetition, and then woke up a bit. I don't clearly remember any FAs, but again, I had trouble falling asleep, which could be FA. I think I did the RC and it failed, when I couldn't fall asleep. I think I woke up then. I remember also that I woke up and I heard high pitched noise. It synthesised it so you can hear what I'm talking about. It wasn't loud, it was calm, and soft to my ears. I started concentrating on that noise, but as I concentrated on it, it went away.

    Here's the high pitch thing: Zippyshare.com - hi pitch.mp3

    Lucids: 0 FAs: 1

    WTF? Why is my post here? Shouldn't it be at the bottom? O.o  
    Day 2
    Not much to say. Few cool things happened though. First was that when I was doing the SSILD, it felt like I was doing it for hour. The 4 series took SO LONG to complete I don't even. I think I felt asleep after second repetition, and then woke up a bit. I don't clearly remember any FAs, but again, I had trouble falling asleep, which could be FA. I think I did the RC and it failed, when I couldn't fall asleep. I think I woke up then. I remember also that I woke up and I heard high pitched noise. It synthesised it so you can hear what I'm talking about. It wasn't loud, it was calm, and soft to my ears. I started concentrating on that noise, but as I concentrated on it, it went away.

    Here's the high pitch thing: Zippyshare.com - hi pitch.mp3

    Lucids: 0 FAs: 1  
    Day 1

    I'm also going to be trying this over the next 30 days. (very neat that there are so many of us doing it at once)

    I tried it this morning, after getting up for about an hour after 5 hours of sleep.

    I didn't have a lucid dream, but I was astounded by how quickly and how deeply it brought about relaxation. In a matter of minutes my body felt ready for sleep. This usually takes about half an hour, but it happened today in less than 10 minutes.

    I continued to use it for the next three hours, on and off with just falling asleep, and letting my mind wander. I fell asleep and then woke up again a few times. During this 3 hour period, multiple times I felt very sudden sensations in my hands and feet, like that of when you're entering a lucid dream using WILD. They came too unexpectedly for me to not become wide awake again, but I remember it felt like my hand had suddenly had a gust of wind lift it up, for a split second, and then the sensation disappeared when I shifted my focus to it.

    I also found it extremely difficult, when performing this technique, to keep my mind from wandering. I would literally be lying there, starting the "stare at the darkness behind your eyelids" step, and within 10 seconds my mind will have wandered to some ridiculous, arbitrary concept, and then I'd snap back to going on to the next step, "listen to the noises in your ears", and then start it, thinking how crazily fast I lost my train of thought, and within 10 seconds I would snap back with another ridiculous thought or phrase in my mind. It was so insane, that I started counting how many times this happened in a row, and it was over 10 times. I was blown away by how little I controlled my focus. (note that I probably could have maintained my awareness by repeating a mantra, but I didn't want to, because that would most likely disrupt the relaxation effects)

    Anyway, it's a very good way to relax, and I'll continue to try it, to see how it works for lucid dreaming.

    Attempts: 1, Lucids: 0, FAs: 0
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    Oh also, I had what might have been a false awakening, I'm not really sure anymore. I remembering thinking, "other people have said they have false awakenings with this, so I better make sure". (I had been lying in bed for quite a while) So I did a reality check, it turned up negative, so just to see what time it was I looked down at the clock, and it read, "1:15".

    Skip ahead a long while. I sit up and do a reality check, in the same way, and look down to see what time it is. It says, "1:27", and immediately I'm suspicious because it felt much, much longer than 12 minutes, it felt more like 45 minutes, having fallen asleep and such in between. I look away, and then back, and then away and then back, and then away and then back, and it remains the same, so I know I'm not dreaming. But then it really makes me wonder if the earlier check had been a false awakening. I don't think it was, since my reality check was negative, but I'm not that sure anymore, because I have had false RC results before. So anyway, just putting that out there: be very attentive when you do your reality checks. If that was indeed a false awakening, you may be surprised at how realistic it is.

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    Oh, also something I noticed upon one awakening was a very loud and distinct sound of a helicopter right above our house, at some point. This sort of thing has happened before, and I'm not sure how it happens, because it bleeds over like 5 seconds into real life! (I do reality checks, that show I'm awake, while the helicopter sound is fading, but is still being heard, distinctly. I'd say it is a false awakening, except I know it's not, at least not always, because I literally get up after this and get on with the day)  
    I think I'll try this at the end of the week.  
    Day 2
    I woke up after 6 hours of sleep and i simply couldn't do these repetitions.
    It only took a couple of seconds before i would lose focus and drift into random nonsense thoughts which suddenly led me to regain counsciousness and start over. After trying for what seemed like an hour i drifted off to sleep.

    I do have a faint memory of waking up and reading in my journal which i think could be a FA, but for the sake of this test, i will not include FAs without a clear memory of it happening.

    Lucids: 0 FAs: 1  
    Originally Posted by Buhl:
    Day 2
    I woke up after 6 hours of sleep and i simply couldn't do these repetitions.
    It only took a couple of seconds before i would lose focus and drift into random nonsense thoughts which suddenly led me to regain counsciousness and start over. After trying for what seemed like an hour i drifted off to sleep.

    I do have a faint memory of waking up and reading in my journal which i think could be a FA, but for the sake of this test, i will not include FAs without a clear memory of it happening.

    Lucids: 0 FAs: 1
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    You should get out of the bed, go to bathroom, drink a glass of water, read a book until you can read it easily, then do the SSILD. Imma going for day 3 !  
    Cool results so far seems like we're all making good progress.
    DAY 2:
    After getting out of work I was really tired so it wasn't too hard fall asleep. I laid down and manage to get maybe 2 or 3 repetitions before I drifted off to sleep, didn't have a chance for WBTB part this time, but I did have 2 very long vivid dreams. Which is definitely a good sign(basically redirecting my dream recall very fast.) I will try again tonight with a WBTB thrown in.  
    Originally Posted by ryman:
    Cool results so far seems like we're all making good progress.
    DAY 2:
    After getting out of work I was really tired so it wasn't too hard fall asleep. I laid down and manage to get maybe 2 or 3 repetitions before I drifted off to sleep, didn't have a chance for WBTB part this time, but I did have 2 very long vivid dreams. Which is definitely a good sign(basically redirecting my dream recall very fast.) I will try again tonight with a WBTB thrown in.

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    1. The best time to practice is after 4 or 5 hours of sleep. You could also combine the practice with WBTB for maximum effect but it is not required. DO NOT do this at the start of your sleep -- it will NOT work!
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    Yeah  
    Day 2

    Tried again, no lucids. I should note, though, that I remember far more of my dreams last night than I usually do. I remember like 5 different segments, when I usually only remember 1 or 2. This could just be because I'm trying a new technique, and so am more attentive, but it also could be because of the technique itself. This will be easier to see as we continue testing it.

    Attempts: 2, Lucids: 0, FAs: 0  
    Originally Posted by MrOMGWTF:
    Yeah
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    I do it at the start of my sleep to keep me thinking about it before i go to sleep, also it helps me fall asleep faster.  
    Originally Posted by ryman:
    I do it at the start of my sleep to keep me thinking about it before i go to sleep, also it helps me fall asleep faster.

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    Ah, I know what you mean.

    I want to update something in my day 2, I asked CosmicIron and he explained me that I was really close!

    When I was doing the cycles, I fell asleep during second cycle, and continued doing them in FA! That's why it felt so long. Then, the high pitched noise I was hearing, was the phase entrance or something like that. Because I misread cosmiciron's post, I started to concentrate on it and it faded away, I should just passively listen to it, wait as it increases it's volume, and then do a subtle RC.  
    DAY 3: no success, I used WBTB woke up about 6 hours after goin to sleep. When I attempted to do the cycles, there happened to be way too many distractions; my dog taking up half the bed, my mom downstairs making coffee, etc. ill give it another go tonight. Although with school and such ill probably have to go to bed much earlier so I can do WBTB on time  
    Day 3

    Was going to try this morning, but got distracted trying to do another method. (the Tinnitus one)

    Will try again tonight.

    Attempts: 2, Lucids: 0, FAs: 0  
    Day 3
    I missed my WBTB timer and slept for a full 11 hours. -.-
    Not able to fall back asleep, i got out of bed.

    Lucids: 0 FAs: 1  
    I think I may join in . I had a LD the other night after doing SSILD, and I believe that this is an effective method. Ill start tonight!  
    Day 3 (Actually day 4, but at day 3 I felt instantly into sleep and didn't do SSILD)
    Finally success! Lucid! Well, it was pretty much nightmare lucid, but still it was cool experience.

    I woke up 5 hours after going to bed. I ate a bit of chocolate as I've read it helps with lucid dreaming. I went to toilet and went back to sleep. I did the 5 cycles of ssild. I got into small trance only once. After that... I couldn't fall asleep. It wasn't FA. I did like 5 RCs, because it was weird I wasn't feeling sleepy after 5 hours of sleep. I was lying there for like half a hour. Then, I'm doing the RC, and bam, I'm dreaming. I don't remember if I did the RC in my bed, because after I did the RC, I was standing in the living room at night. I started feeling really dizzy, like I'm passing out. It happened to me a lot of times. It's like anti-lucid mechanism. I got fooled by it many times. I was like, omg, brain, really? But I thought,  I must do deild! So as I was leaving dream, I was trying not to open my eyes or move. Actually, I didn't leave the dream. I woke up in FA again. As I did the deild... just wow. Every part of my body was shaking, it was so loud like there is a freaking jet in my room! I was feeling sooo scared, not because of the noises and shit, but I JUST was scared out of nothing. I've never been so scared in my life. Well, everything was happening, but I was getting nowhere. I was like, heeeey, IT'S FA! So I stopped doing this, I opened my eyes, and it was gone. I was like, I'm not gonna do nose plug rc again, because something bad can happen again, like the passing out part. I used completly new and not-known RC: I tried to look up with my eyes, as high as possible. The feeling was unbelievable. I was feeling all that meat in my head and shit, I had my eyes looking completly up. As I moved them more, I was seeing something. Some scene. But I stopped. I was still scared because of that "fake deild". I was too scared to get out of bed. I was just lying there doing this new reality check. I was like, fuck this, I'm outta here. I read somewhere that when you close and open your eyes really fast in a dream, you can get out of it. So I did this. HOPEFULLY, it didn't work. I did the RC again, and said to myself, who's the boss? I decided to get out of the bed. Well, nothing scary happened. I left my room, and wanted to turn on the lights. I clicked the switch, but nothing happened. I was like HUEHUEHUEHUE. I wanted to leave my house, but as I opened the doors, I woke up.

    Well... yeeaaah.

    How can I teleport from my FA bed into some calm place?

    Lucids: 1 FAs: 2  
    Very neat. I'm definitely going to keep trying.  
    Day 4
    When i came home from work, i decided to try SSILD during a nap. (All my lucids have been while napping)

    I used the SSILD technique to try relaxing for a WILD attempt and quite frankly, it worked WONDERS! I was lying there during the reps until i began (feeling) spinning rapidly and that is the furthest i have ever been in a WILD.

    I could literally see the dream getting created in front of my eyes, however, i ruined it. I was getting so hyped up on breaking my dry-spell that i woke myself up, suddenly feeling my body laying completely still and my mind getting alert.

    After this i decided to go back to sleep.
    I then had a dream in which i was flying my RC drone around with some friends while standing on ice in the middle of a frozen lake.

    Suddenly my drone crashed on the ice and went right through (it shouldn't, it weights 300g and we were standing on the ice) and that caused me to become LUCID! (YAY!).

    However, i woke up again after roughly 5 sec. Catching myself waking up, i immediately prepared myself for a DEILD.

    I woke up with my eyes closed and awaited the transition, once again i saw a dream form in front of my eyes and once again, i woke up due to excitement.

    Now, while this wasn't the most epic history of lucidity, i think it is important to note that i had 1 lucid dream and 2 possible lucids, had i not been so hyped and that is for a 2陆 hour nap. <--- (That is my 4 month lucid count in one nap.)

    I don't know if it was SSILD or just a spur of luck, but it kinda points in the direction of a working supplementary technique in my opinion.

    Lucids: 1 FAs: 1  
    Congrats Buhl, I had the same problem with excitement during my closest WILD, I don't know if I can ignore this SSILD haha  
    Day 1:
    Went to bed later than planned (A lot later, like 3 hours  ). Got caught up working on a fun project, and didn't want to stop xD. I did SSILD before I went to bed, and everything was normal that night. I remembered a full dream, which is usual for me. Tonight I will be going to bed at normal time, and doing a WBTB with this, so we'll see then ;D  
    Day 4

    I got very close this morning! I woke up for about an hour, went back to bed, did 4 or 5 repetitions. Now relaxed, I lay there, but was getting bored. So I started doing more repetitions, (I know I wasn't really supposed to, but I was getting impatient), and I started feeling very strange, like when starting to have hypnogogic imagery. After being in this state for a while, trying to keep my excitement down and fall asleep, my attention snapped back when I heard a distinct and sudden noise of a piano key being pressed, like when I'm playing with my headphones on. I knew without a doubt that this was in my mind, since I didn't have headphones on, this has happened other times right before a dream, and I was expecting it more or less, so I jerked myself up immediately and did reality checks. But apparently I hadn't fallen asleep yet.

    I think I would have entered a lucid dream if I had waited longer before getting out of bed, because I felt very close, and I only hear noises like that when I'm getting close to one. (which is why I got up, but apparently a bit too soon)

    Attempts: 3, Lucids: 0, FAs: 0, HIs: 1  
    I too am trying SSILD as well during my WBTBs. I'll let you know how it works out and if I get a LD(s) or not!  
    Day 4: no success had no time for WBTB, remembered one drem fragment  
    Day 2:
    Woke up about five and a half hours after I went to bed. Got up, checked my email, and went to the bathroom, and then went to bed to do SSILD. I kept drifting off and forgetting where I was, which is good for this technique  . I think I fell asleep while doing the technique because I never remember stopping and getting in my sleeping position. Nothing happened, I just remembered a couple dream fragments when I woke up. I said this before on a different thread, I feel like this would be more effective if my recall was better.  
    Day 4
    Absolutely nothing.
    Lucids: 1 FAs: 2

    Day 3 wasn't only SSILD. If I didn't do the RCs before falling asleep, I think I wouldn't have a lucid. I was just repeating doing those RCs and I did it in a FA. I think a mantra could help here doing the RC while in FA.  
    I never used it on its own. I just do it with other things that have already proven themselves as working.  
    Day 5
    Stress at work = no time for dreaming

    Lucids: 1 FAs:1  
    Day 5

    Finally success!

    I had a long and exciting lucid dream this morning, after using this method on its own, with WBTB. (the other nights I had tried to add other things, but I decided last night that I should try it on its own, at least until I have one success with it)

    It produced not only a lucid dream, but also two  false awakenings. I recorded it all here: Lucid Dream 15 - Dream Journals - Lucid Dreaming - Dream Views

    Attempts: 4, Lucids: 1, FA's: 2, HI's: 1  
    I'm glad that you it worked for you and it gave you a few FAs!

    I'm doing this technqiue for the FAs mainly, so it is good to hear it works for at least one person hahaha  
    Nice job Venryx!  
    Day 5: woke up about 4 hours after going to sleep, stayed in bed awake for a few min, then began doing the cycles, got one or two in before I drifted off, had a very deep vivid dream, not very long, but vivid. No lucids yet though.  
    Well, I think I need to stop my test, because I'm losing too much sleep, and I'm getting up pretty late to school.

    I had a MILD today tho, but it was at the end of my last rem state :S
    I said only few times "I'm having lucid dreams" and it worked, lol?
    It was pretty long dream and I got lucid at the end of it. It was a dream where I was lacking my pants  I was going somewhere with my grandpa, then I was in my school having biology, as the lesson ended, the teacher closed the door, and I decided to use some WTF lucid dream induction technique right here. I started to lean on the door of the class with my head's forehead. The technique's point was that when I fall asleep I'll fall through that door. I don't even know this "technique", it was totally random! And then I thought, why would I try to get a lucid dream when I'M IN A DREAM? Hey, wtf? Yes, I'M IN A DREAM! I started looking at my hands calm, and then the dream ended and I woke up, because it was the end of my rem state.  
    How are you losing sleep? This doesn't require you to lose sleep.  
    Originally Posted by BrandonBoss:
    How are you losing sleep? This doesn't require you to lose sleep.
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    Sometimes when practicing techniques that involve WBTB, you can lose sleep. Ive had it happen especially when I have to go to school and I'm waking up at 2 am for WBTB  
    DAY 6:
    no success, woke up around 3am got out of bed used the bathroom, and got a drink of water. I laid back down and could not do the steps without getting distracted several times so I just went to sleep.