主题:Apple Says New Macbook Pro Has Only 16Gb Of Ram To Save BatApple says new MacBook Pro has only 16GB of RAM to save battery life
Going into the article thinking "16GB for a base model makes sense"
Turns out this is the maximum you can get...ouch
Well, at least no one is going to be doing anything graphically intensive on a MacBook Pro, like the entire design industry. /s
> I hope you check out this new generation MacBook Pro, it really is an incredible system.
Sounds like Trump.
But wouldn't that extra little screen/bar eat more battery life than a stick of RAM?
I should be able to choose upgrades and make battery decisions for myself. That's BS and I'm a "fanboy".
This is coming from a PC guy that doesnt know much about macs, but is 16gb of ram not much? Thats as much as my desktop pc...
Depends on what you want to do with it. The Pro line is considered something for intensive work and usually packs a fair amount of horse power. The last gen Mac Book Pro had at least 16GB of RAM, so you'd expect the newer version to support more.
The average consumer wouldn't need more, but then the average consumer may want to stick with a non "pro" computer, especially given its price. Perhaps Apple has figured out their core market doesn't need more, who knows.
lol.
https://www.microsoftstore.com/store/msusa/en_US/cat/Surface-Trade-In/categoryID.69758400
It's alright for right now but you don't buy a $2k computer so that it's obsolete in 2-3 yrs.
It's so cool now that we have all installed ubuntu on our iphones and macbooks!
If you want choice and to make decisions yourself, apple is the wrong company to buy from.
Well there are still good macs out there for that. I'd say this is more aimed at personal users who care more about telling people they have the new mac book pro, than whatever it can actually do.
Edit: To all the people saying "but it's the pro version. It's for professionals"
Bullshit. It's for people who want to feel better than "the average user".
I concur. The price tag would shy away the avg consumer base that has nothing to do with 16GB of RAM. I would have liked to have seen an increase of RAM only because it's been 4 long years for an update to the lineup. In those 4 years I'm sure programs that run with high graphical needs must have been pushing for more, hence a bump in RAM could/should have been expected. But I dunno that's just my opinion man.
It goes a long way for creative suite type applications, video editing, etc. And the people who use those applications are pretty much the only tech professionals who can both justify and operate with a mac.
Then you don't want apple products, which have always been locked down to only a small number of configurations and very hard or impossible to upgrade.
You should consider not being a "fanboy" anymore, because Apple is simply not the company for you if you want choice.
I don't think "pro" means what they think it means.
It's not mac/not mac, but a lot of people using the pro line is using it instead of a desktop. For me that is running several virtual machines as well as tool/applications which can use 3-4GB *each*. I've been waiting to upgrade from 16GB to 32GB for years because 16GB is beginning to limit me. Now it looks like I'll have to change platform, which I really don't want to.
Good Macs? Yea, like hackintoshes. After this they will get way more popular.
Maybe this wouldn't be an issue if they weren't so focused on creating a laptop suitable for a clean shave…
Who is the person that is still there saying "Let's make it thinner! Thinner is a must!" as opposed to "We can make it the same thickness- or even a bit thicker- and *double* the battery life while increasing cooling capacity!"
I would be 100% cool with having a mbpr that was the thickness of the mbp's from 2-3 years ago (with the optical drives) if it meant that the battery lasted 20-25 hours. How hard is that to understand to these people?
I'm happy I got my older model stuff. 2012 macbook and iphone 5s. I don't think I'll ever bother upgrading unless apple stops shitting the bed.
They removed the glowing Apple logo to counteract it :P
Have you upgraded the RAM and/or HDD in your laptop?
All the engineers on my team had to upgrade their Airs to Pros due the running CPU/memory intensive VMs. Running on VPN and the VMs kills the Macbook Pro battery from about seven hours to three. We usually refresh our equipment every two years, hopefully this will be enough reason for IT to approve Linux laptops.
MacBook "Pro" = MacBook Profit
I bet he has because in older macbooks you were still able to upgrade RAM(very easily before, impossible now) and HDD (easily before, more difficult now).
is 16GB not much or something? I don't even get close to using up all my 8GB and I game and photoshop.
I'm a sucker for Macbooks and really love the trackpad and overall build quality. I'm stuck with my 2009 Pro and probably need to upgrade soon. Granted, it still runs well because I put in an SSD, more ram and a new battery. But one day, it will die.
But fuck I'm not spending 1700 on the base model MBpro. Ridiculous. When I bought mine the base model 13" was 1150. And so many regressions...no usbA, no magsafe.
Like someone here wrote: Apple 2016: one step forward, two steps back.
There is a difference between using photoshop personally and using it professionally, professional grade design work requires more rendering and that higher ram capacity to be done efficiently.
> is 16gb of ram not much
depends, certain application just eat ram, for example loading in really big sampled instruments, like an orchestral section with all the articulations.
Wouldn't you save a grip of cash just setting up a hypervisor with a lot of RAM? Instead of hosting the VMs locally?
For a workstation that's the minimum I would consider, given that the Macbook Pro is marketed towards media creation users and it costs quite a lot of money I would expect it to at least have the specs to actually handle media creation.
if you are actually needing more than 16gb of ram, then a laptop is a weird choice.
Can we just take a moment to appreciate that we live in a future so great that we can complain about having *only* 16GB RAM? My laptop in college had 512MB.
They could literally just not mention the thickness, and nobody would even ask. Just say you've got a full day of battery life, and everyone would throw money at you.
Rendering uses as much RAM as you have available, since it's much faster to move the data back and forth between RAM and CPU to be calculated than it is to keep loading it from the HDD page file.
Also virtual machines use as much RAM as an entire OS all on their own.
I was really let down by the new ones too, mainly the price point. I have a Late 2011 macbook pro and I love it. And it sucks because I really like the 2012 pros with the HDMI, better display and it being thinner in general. The specs in the new ones are pretty damn weak too.
Depending on how much they cost it would be kind of crazy to buy a 4 year old laptop but I'm not sure. Other "premium" laptops are very expensive too. The build quality and trackpad have a huge influence in the laptops I purchase and so far nothing really compares to a macbook. if anyone has any suggestions that would be great.
Apple made a laptop that can't connect to an iPhone out of the box. You'll need an adapter.
It is, but that doesn't change the fact that every year thousands of design professionals make that choice and pick up mbp's and if they do that they should at least have the option to pay for more ram.
The glowing Apple was just backlight from the screen, they removed it to make the top shell thinner
I dunno man, thats technology in a nutshell today. For example a thick phone with an amazing battery and specs sounds amazing only to us it seems. Maybe its easer to market smaller and thinner devices than more powerfull ones.
This new MacBook Pro has the same maximum, un-upgradeable amount of RAM as the 15" Retina MBP that I bought in 2012. Kinda ridiculous.
Their target demographic is people who should own a chromebook. These aren't pro computers, these are computers for netflix and facebook. They put in what is needed for that, make it as thin as possible and market it as a luxury product for house wives, old people and trustfund kids. This really sucks for us who want a mac as a tool for development.
>Also virtual machines use as much RAM as an entire OS all on their own.
I mean, thats because they're an entire OS...