• 主题:Morty Question For The Subreddit Does This Sub Prefer Ada O
  • ADA has a lot of momentum on LD forums, but I think mindfulness is far superior.   I don't think this sub goes one way or another, there are proponents in both camps.

    I've been working on mindfulness for several years now.   When I'm in my good dreaming groove (sufficiently rested, not stressed, etc.), most of the night's dreams after the first sleep cycle now are incredibly vivid, present (like I'm really there), even "alternate life" level of experiences, indistinguishable in many ways from waking life memories.  

    ADA is intense observation, mindfulness is self-awareness.   Self-awareness *is* lucidity.   One of the stated goals of mindfulness is to train yourself to recognize the truth of your experiences from moment to moment.   That's perfect for lucid dreaming (and lucid living while awake)!    Translating these experiences into lucid dreams (for me at least) requires the extra ingredient of  intent, and having a current set of lucid goals that I'm really excited about.

    It's not a quick or easy path.   Building high self-awareness takes time and dedication, you're changing the way your brain works.    But it's well worth it.  
    I recommend the mindfulness sources that come from the (at least somewhat) spiritual traditions.   You take what makes sense and can skip the stuff that doesn't.   I've seen at least one "scientific" mindfulness book and found it dry and seemingly without basis.  It was trying really hard to find nothing spiritual about mindfulness, almost going to contortions (IMO) to avoid it, and it seemed just artificial and totally without merit to me.   I'm not a Buddhist but can appreciate their traditions.   I would think that even the "non-spiritual" would find value in their writings because they're very much focused on the individual working to form their own transformation.

    I like "Mindfulness In Plain English," "Wherever You Go, There You Are: Mindfulness Meditation In Everyday Life" (I think these would mostly satisfy your request).  I also really like Andrew Holecek's "Dream Yoga: Illuminating Your Life Through Lucid Dreaming and the Tibetan Yogas of Sleep," particularly because it connects directly with lucid dreaming.   But it may have too much Buddhism for you.   I think it's still worth a read, filtering out that stuff if you like, this book is chock full of really important revelations about mindfulness and lucidity.  (As is "The Tibetan Yogas of Dream and Sleep".   There are several passages there that are transformational.)

    edit: fundamentally, mindfulness is learning to pay attention to yourself and your experiences.    Through meditation (seated or otherwise) practices you strive to exist with a still mind, so that the inner chatter fades away, so you can see clearly to the truth of your experiences, and can choose your reactions/behavior, rather than being ruled by your reactions.

    My LDing practice catch-phrase is "Pay attention, reflect, recall."  Pay attention to all life experiences (waking or dreaming), reflect upon them (while you're having the experience and later when recalling them), and practice recalling them: recall your day's experiences in the evening, and recall your dream experiences in the morning after waking.   So it's a holistic approach that involves a constant type of behavior, rather than trying to live one way during the day and another way at night.     Build your own practice around what works for you, as long as it includes these fundamental principles.  
    Not everybody shares your opinions and assertions.  The only proof I need is in the context of my own practice, and in seeing the effectiveness begin to work in people whom I advise.    Mindfulness is indeed not a quick or easy path, but for those looking not just for once-in-a-while LDs, but transforming into a lucid person who is aware both awake and in dreams on a regular basis.    

    The effect of mindfulness on dream recall is dramatic and I personally experienced it over the course of just a few months.    There's no need to prove it, and probably no way to prove it, all we have is just anecdotes, including for all the other *ILDs you mention.

    And BTW, meditation is scientifically proven to physically change the brain, specifically in the areas that seem to be required for lucid dreaming (frontal cortex I believe is the location).    Since you claim that lucid dreaming is entirely physiological, (which I do not believe, it is one aspect, but not the only aspect) I'd think that would have some sway with you.