主题:Senses Initiated Lucid Dream (Ssild) Part Ii Ld4AllRhewin wrote:
Again, it's that little bit of awareness that I think really helps.
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I agree. I've only been able to remember SILD when I wake up and MILD back to sleep... and I've been falling asleep quickly so I don't even get to the hearing part but it still seems to help bring some more awareness into the dream. I should remember to do at least one or two full cycles on my back, where it's more unlikely I'll just fall asleep.
After a 15 minute WBTB last night I tried SILD and even though I didn't fall asleep right away I had a really hard time concentrating (I did get lucid though, very short as usual...). My mind just wanders so easily sometimes, it seems I couldn't even finish the first part without getting lost
shelli wrote:
So I've tried this 2 nights in a row without becoming lucid. However, my dreams have been much more vivid and realistic. Most of them seem to be bunched up in the hour or so before getting up (like a chain). Both of these things make it hard to determine when/if I'm dreaming.
Though this mornings dream was mundane it was realistic enough that some part of me may not have wanted to accept that it was a dream as it was a little overwhelming.
Now that I think about it....the reason the dream was different is because I was more aware of my senses! I could see and hear more than usual.
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That's a great thing! Even if you didn't get lucid, you're a lot closer than you were before (and also, dreams can be VERY increadible even without lucidity).
And welcome to LD4all
I have time to sleep in the mornings now and the last few nights I've been waking up in the early morning (probably because of the sun and noises) and then I feel it takes a little time to fall asleep again. I can't believe I forgot to try SSILD I'll try it again this week, as usually I would just fall asleep...
I remembered to really try SSILD this morning. I woke up, went to the bathroom, and then tried it on my back, as on my side I usually just fall asleep before 2 or 3 cycles. I was able to do 5-7 cycles, even though I did get distracted a lot. After that I rolled on my side to fall asleep but it took me some time. I got a LD which had lots of low or semi lucidity, only a couple moments of decent lucidity. It was pretty stable and ok in terms of vividness. I'm just glad I didn't wake up right away Anyway, the quick WBTB and a couple MILD mantras could have helped, but I want to try it again.
I have a question about "where" you're supposed to look at. There's the blackness behind my eyeslids, but then there's this "place" where when sometimes I'm trying to fall asleep I get some random images/ideas pop up. Should I focus on this second "place"? or is it just the physical blackness? The same question goes for the hearing.
Another thing is you say you like this method because it doesn't need much energy/effort, but to me I feel I do need some effort . Is this only because my mind drifts so easily?
I want to get used to doing SSILD (maybe with MILD) every night/morning. I think I should meditate a bit too. The problem is my mind seems to wander way too much. I start the first cycle and before I change to hearing I'm lost in thoughts. If I'm lying on my side I might even just fall right asleep. So I guess I need a little more practice.
Anyway, about FA's. I PM'ed cosmic.iron some time ago asking if he had tips for my premature awakenings which happen so frustratingly frequently in my LD's and one thing he said in his reply that got my attention was about FA's (which for some reason I hadn't even considered). I just couldn't believe the possiblity of these awakenings being FA's! In most of them I'd just fall asleep and enter another LD, but that means nothing about it being or not an FA. Actually, if I was still dreaming it might explain how I entered another LD so quickly. I rarely RC when I wake up, but a week ago I remembered to do so when I had one of these awakenings and it was a FA! I even cried in the dream, thinking maybe all of these awakenings I've been struggling with for a really long time were actually FA's. That would be something ... revolutionary. So I REALLY want to get in the habit of RC'ing instead of staying still and trying to DEILD.
FA'ers of LD4all unite! Sorry for the wall of useless text
Note to self: SSILD is awesome.
I went to bed at 00:20 and woke up at 3:15 (puppy crying). When I went back to bed I tried SSILD and I have to say this was probably the first time I've actually been able to do the whole thing correctly, that is, without losing track every 2 seconds . I did 5 cycles and whenever I lost focus it wasn't really hard to get back on track and keep going. I didn't see, hear or feel anything at all. When I was done I rolled on my side and tried to fall asleep as fast as possible. Next thing I know I got this lucid feeling and I do a nose RC. My level of lucidity wasn't the best, but it was pretty vivid and stable. I think what made it less awesome than it could have been was the fact that my DR hasn't been that great recently, so it feels like I forgot many parts. It was still great, though!
Great post, cosmic.iron! The Focus Point model does make a lot of sense to me, so I'm going with it. I think this explanation might really help me SSILD