It has nothing to do with sleep paralysis. In fact, Lucid Dreaming has NOTHING to do with sleep paralysis, and that argument could be made against hypnogogia too.

I don't think it has anything to do with age. If at all, it's probably easier to do it younger.  

Last night, my second time trying this, I had 3 lucid dreams! I even had a beer, which of course ruins REM sleep, and I didn't even fall asleep doing the method fully. I just stopped it and went to sleep withing 30 secs or so. I was finally able to stay lucid for more than a flash of moment, and I began to play with flying and interacting with dream characters. My dreams are not extremely vivid yet, but that's one weak spot I've always had. Lack of a vivid emotional or sensory experience in my dreams.

Thank you for this method. This is the only method with an acceptable effort to reward ratio.  

Your welcome! Feel free to write me if you have any questions! Good luck and happy dreaming!  

I think CAT will work with SSILD. Please let us know how it turns out should you decide to experiment with it! Thanks!  

What do you recommend as stabilization technique for SSILD induced OBE's ? specially when your dream body is dormant and your vision is impaired, and also when the it07s night in the OBE environment?  

No problem! Feel free to email me at cosmic.iron@gmail.com. Cheers!  

Hi Cosmic Iron!
Thank you so much for this tutorial!
I have one question: If I get really tired after just a few cycles, should i go to sleep or wake myself up to start all over again?

Greetings from Germany  

thank you! :)  

Cant wait to try this method out thank u so very much for posting  

Btw, in this blogpost you tell us to do the short cycles for a "a few seconds". Is 5 enough? Also, if we are only doing the cycles for a few seconds, we wont be supposed to drift off during this stage, will we?  

I the results of this technique seemed to slow and then stop and I gave up on lucid dreaming. I've done this 3-4 times in the past two years where I simply give up on a technique. I think my main problem is that I fall asleep too quickly. Could I begin doing this with the lights on or my eyes open?  

Hi!  I tries this method last night and had a pretty bad experience with it.  I woke up 5 hours after I went to sleep, quickly went to the bathroom which took about 2 mins, turned no lights on and went right back into my bed.  I did all of the cycles exactly as they were described here but I just could not fall asleep for the life of me.  It wasn't false awakenings because I did many reality checks.  It took me almost 2 hours to finally fall back asleep.  Any ideas as of why this happened?  

Yes, you can probably do that with the lights on or your eyes open, if you manage to sleep after that.  

don't give up! that pesemistic attitude is probably why you failed at it! it seems to me that the only thing you are lacking is proper dream recall. Until you can semi-consistently (4 days out of the week) remember at the very least 2 whole dreams, dont give up. if even after that you aren't successful and you still want to have an LD, then seek out help. ONLY until then, do you even think about giving up.  

Thank you for the clearly explained method! I'll try this method tonight, and will report back if it induces a lucid dream. :)
~SleepyCat3  

I had two lucid dreams the first time I used it!!! Im going to practice every night so I will keep everyone posted!!!  

I had two lucid dreams the first time I used it!!! Im going to practice every night so I will keep everyone posted!!!  

Hey! I find you method very intetersting and perspective. I tried it for a month  fairly often (above 10 times), but it is very difficult for me to fall asleep after it. I may lay and insomnia for more than 2 hours. And it were not FA, because i have big experience in Raduga's indirect method and LDs for 4 years.

Surprisingly, but all times when i tired by insomnia and fallen asleep in the morning, i still have LD's and indirect phases!

I will try to do cycles max sleepily, may be i can catch SSILD without insomnia:) Because it seemes me more physiological and closer to the cause of LDs, then MR Indirect.

Thank if you will comment my experience  

Hi Iron, thanks for the clear explanation. I wanted to ask you what do you think about afternoon naps, are they suitable for this technique?  

Wow, I tried SSILD this afternoon and had, I don't know exactely how many LDs... it was like my mind was super mindful and I could recognize the dream state as I was completely awake. I tried the nose RC and could feel my breathe flowing normally even though my nose was completely close... incredible..first attempt great success... thanks Iron  

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Today my second success...I'd say a DILD obtained thanks to the SSILD cicles done just before my afternoon nap. In my dream i was trying to get asleep in a terrace on the fifth floor and thought that would have been much better to stay on the ground floor to not risk to fall from the balcony, when out of the blue, I realized I was dreaming and then I threw myself from the terrace becoming immediately lucid...wow.. I put my finger through the other hand tasting the beautiful sensation to be ...pierceable ahahahahha  

Hi Cosmic Iron. Is there any chance you could share your first students journal? As a help guide for other novices?  

CI, This is great of you to post all this. It will help many people. I do have some questions though regarding something you posted on dreamviews-

"For beginners you can try this -- you wake up from SSILD. You are absolutely certain you are awake. Don't despair. Relax and allow your head to sink into the pillow. Focus on your nose and imagine that you are lifting your hand to pinch it. You probably will feel some weight on your nose and that's great. That sensation will help you. It is the sensation caused by your imaginary fingers pinching it. Once you manage to feel that your fingers have grabbed your nose you can try breathe. If you can breath the you are already in a dream. Don't let go of your fingers,. Keep focusing on them and roll out of your bed. Voila, you are in your dream world. Keep in mind -- I'm not talking about false awakening here. This is real awakening. But if you do what I say, with practice, you may be able to turn these real awakenings into lucid dreams, even AFTER you have physically moved. That's the beauty of SSILD."

This isn't clear to me.

OK, we wake up after having done SSILD. Allow our head to sink into pillow. That I get. But the nose pinching. We should just *imagine* it being done by our fingers? Because you say "If you can breath the you are already in a dream". I don't understand this. If we are actually awake, and just imagining fingers on our nose, then we would be able to breathe as well. Also... Should we physically roll out of bed now, even if we ARE awake, just to establish the habit?  Sorry if I'm being slow about this. And thanks for your help!
  

Hi! I like how the steps are simple and can't wait to try it out, but is it required to get out of bed when the alarm wakes you? It's really hard for me to get back to sleep if I move around.