Originally Posted by ch00b:
Just wondering, do we repear each step after doing it or repeat the entire process when we are done? Thanks.

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You go through each part of the cycle, then repeat it again. Like sight -> hear -> feel -> sight -> hear...  

Originally Posted by Sydney:
Wasn't really able to attempt SSILD because I was away  But the other night (when I woke up in the morning) I just decided to do SSILD because I missed my chance in the middle of the night. So I did and after about 3 cycles I felt strangely relaxed.

Like really, really relaxed.
My dad woke me up though.

@CosmicIron: Yay!

Oh and do we need to stay still the whole time we're doing the cycles? I hate it because ever since I've stopped attempting WILDs I keep moving about every 20 seconds, repositioning my arm, leg, etc.

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Thanks Sydney  it is important to feel relaxed and comfortable during the exercise; therefore if staying still makes you uncomfortable then you should definitely move to find a better position.  In fact if you feel even slight uncomfort it is probably a sign that indicates you are not doing the exercise correctly.  Also, do NOT deliberately try to stay motionless.  Doing so will only make you tense and lose sleep.  Find the most comfortable position as long as you don't fall asleep right away.  

Originally Posted by DinoSawr:
I have a question before I attempt this tonight:

If you fall asleep while doing the cycles after having entered the trance a few times, is this okay too?

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Yes it's perfectly fine! Just make sure you remind yourself to do an RC upon waking up again.  

Hey, you're back!  

@cosmiciron

Does it matter if you forget the order of the trance and maybe repeat parts and not others? Like sight>hearing>sight>touch>sight>hearing.

Somehow when I'm in the trance I forget what to do, haha.  

Originally Posted by daban:
Since he hasn't answered I'm going to go ahead and try based on how he've replied before: The point IS to loose track of yourself. You're suppose to wander away and forget what your doing upon entering the trance after some cycles. Just hope you made atleast 2-3 cycles before you fall asleep.

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Couldn't have said it better myself  

I'm going to try this tonight. I hope it works after a week of dream journaling and ADA's  

I tried this technique with WBTB today and i got an LD  Not sure if this SSILD helped or not, maybe it would've happened without it as well, but it's not hard to do, so i'll keep using it  

Originally Posted by Sydney:
Went to bed late last night, so I only got about an hour and 45 minutes worth of actual sleeping after my WBTB.

I managed to do only one rep in one cycle and fell asleep.

It was weird though. The next dream I had was pretty vivid, and I was walking around wondering, "Could this be a dream, what if this was a dream?"

Never got lucid though.
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LOL.  You were THAT close!  I guess if you had managed one more cycle you probably would have succeeded . It is quite common to have spontaneous LDs as well as suspicions of realities after doing the exercise.  Next time remind yourself to do RCs more often, and please try at least more than one cycles, LOL.  

Originally Posted by littlezoe:
I tried this technique with WBTB today and i got an LD  Not sure if this SSILD helped or not, maybe it would've happened without it as well, but it's not hard to do, so i'll keep using it
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Good thinking  

@CosmicIron - I see, that sounds pretty reasonable to me. Fascinating, this technique is pretty interesting.

@[email02protected] - I'm with you, I have had a few semi-LD's and many FA's with this, no long and vivid lucids yet but keep trying right?  

I did a WBTB + SSILD again today and got an LD yet again  Althrough now it was directly induced by me after i was in SP after waking up... but still  

Originally Posted by littlezoe:
I did a WBTB + SSILD again today and got an LD yet again  Althrough now it was directly induced by me after i was in SP after waking up... but still

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Yea this happens to me too with this technique, I just sometimes wake up in sp and get dragged into a dream from almost awake state. It's pretty amazing. These dreams are much more vivid and im much more aware in them compared to normal DILDs  

When doing SSILD last night, once again, I felt a strangely relaxing sensation. Like I didn't want to move. Ever. I managed to do about 4 cycles before I fell asleep. It was interesting though; I took a lot more time than I thought I did (20-30 seconds) on each rep. After about the second cycle I heard this strange "patter" noise in my ears. It was far away, and I could barely hear it, but it was there.

No lucids, though. Maybe I just can't remember them because of my suddenly failing recall?  

Ok  I tried this in a half-arsed way after my 4:30 alarm went off and I recorded a dream. I found it a bit difficult to fall back to sleep but when I did, I had one of the longest dreams I've ever recorded and I became lucid near the end! Before doing this technique I had only one brief DILD. I'm not sure if this succes was down to my improving recall as a result of MasterMind's walking journal technique or this. Judging by the apparent high success rate of this and the that I became lucid for no apparent reason, I doubt this is placebo. I'm going to continue to use this method and analyse the results before making any conclusions.  

Originally Posted by CosmicIron:
When you do notice distinct sensations, such as seeing colors or hearing things, you should pause the exercise and focus on mentally increasing the sensations.

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Okay, I'll do that.

No success last night though. I did question reality in one of my dreams, but it failed for some reason. :/  

Ok tried this again last night. It didn't work but thats likely because I couldn't sleep last night for some odd reason (not related to the SSILD attempt). I'll give it another bash tonight.  

Originally Posted by DinoSawr:
My last few attempts I have been falling asleep too quickly after waking up (sometimes because of poor prior sleep) so I know I need to stay up a little longer before beginning the technique. If I normally sleep on my side, would it be a good idea to go through the cycles lying on my back and then turn over on my side to fall asleep quickly?

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I've had that problem too now in 3 days. I'm too tired due to exercise and stuff so I'm just too tired to go up in the night or notice my wakeups after dreams.

And yea it seems like a very good idea to do the technique on your back to then roll over and sleep if your too tired. I will do that too.  

Update:

I did this technique after sleeping for 8 hours and definitely felt the sensations. I went into the trance a little bit as well, forgetting what I was doing and then remembering. Unfortunately, I was a little bit too awake and couldn't fall asleep as fast as I wanted to, but nevertheless I had a short lucid dream later on!

It lasted for only a few seconds because I freaked myself out, (a detailed account can be found here) but I still think it was the SSILD technique that did that for me. Thank you so much, CosmicIron!  

Originally Posted by Sydney:
Still unable to get some success! It seems like I'm doing the technique okay.

For all the people that have succeeded; for how many hours did you sleep before getting up for WBTB?

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I simply do it each time i wake up during the night. from 4-7 hours.  

Originally Posted by Sea07:
We just need to keep at it!
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Definetly.  

Ugh... i was doing SSILD after WBTB today... i did it like 20 times in a row and i couldn't fall asleep at all.. needless to say i didn't get an LD  

Originally Posted by Sydney:
Haha sorry CosmicIron.
It goes something like this:

I wake up for my WBTB after sleeping for about 5 hours and 30 minutes. I get up, use the restroom, and then get back in bed. All of this happens in about 2 minutes.

I do the technique, but it seems like I take 25 - 35 seconds on each rep (sight, hear, feel) because my mind keeps wandering and I need to start over, or I'm not real sure how long it has been on that rep. Eventually I do about 3 - 4 cycles and then try to fall asleep.

And sometimes I find myself doing the same rep over and over again.

That's pretty much how it goes every night.
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Hows your recall? perhaps your forgetting the dreams and event from the night?
I would try going to bed earlier to notice every awakening and so on.  

I've decided to try this technique, as I took a year out of lucid dreaming and thought I'd get back into it again  MILD works well for me but I thought I'd give this a try since it seems to have a lot of positive feedback.

Last night I woke up after around 3-4 hours sleep (woke up naturally). I went to the toilet and then back to bed straight away. I got comfy and started to do the cycles, but after around one my body started tensing up. I know exactly what the trance feels like cause I've been there before while MILDing (I got a lot of FAs during my MILDs, I now realise that it could be because of this) and I know I can reach it easily, however I kept having to stop and stretch to release the tension. After awhile this woke me up too much to do the cycles properly, so I just went to sleep normally.

I'll try again tonight, I'm not annoyed from one failure. I think this would work well for me as I can reach the trance state quickly and I've had experience with it before. Tonight I'll set an alarm for around 5.5 hours (this was my optimum MILD time) and stretch well before I go to bed...

It would be awesome to know how this works, I'd like to hear more theories on it  

THIS KILLED OUT MY DRY SPELL..
had an amazing ,very very long lucid