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16.11.02

I wouldn't call it refining because nothing is really new, but there are definitely information that aren't part of the original tutorial. It will probably take me a day to write, but I keep finding excuses. In a few days I will be on a long flight and I suspect I might be able to take advantage of that :)

Hi Cosmiciron, Are You Refining This..

16.11.01

A good reality check must be able less prone to influence from the subconscious mind, and more difficult for it to simulate. For example,is flying a good RC? Obviously we don't normally expect we can fly, and that's built into our subconscious. Thus, even if you have the slightest doubt you will be rendered unable to fly, which fails the RC. Let's look at counting fingers. Is it more difficult for subconscious to simulate five fingers instead of six? Obviously not. Therefore it is not a good RC either. Of course, counting fingers and observing clocks take advantage of the fact that the subconscious mind is very volatile and therefore repeated examinations might yield different results. However, not only this takes precious time away, it can often cause you to become less lucid.

IMO, nose pinching is the best RC., especially if you train it properly. Most people who claim it fails are in fact not doing it correctly. First, like any RC, it should be done without hesitation so it doesn't create "doubts." The beauty of nose pinching is that not only it's quick, it's also harmless. This makes it less prone to influence from the subconscious. Second, one should not confuse a stuffed nose with "unable to breathe." To train for this, one should try pinching the nose during the day and observe its feel -- basically it makes impossible to breath in any air, not the slightest. This kind of feel is impossible for subconscious to simulate. With this experience firmly imprinted in our mind, it becomes very easy to compare the difference within a dream.

Couple Questions.

16.11.01

SP is a natural stage that almost always happens during sleep. You don't have to induce it. You experience it. As long as you can keep your mind awake while your body falls asleep you can experience SP. That's the basis of most WILD techniques anyway.

How Do I Induce Sp

16.11.01

Well said. I find it funny when people argue about things which they have little knowledge and experience of. Before we argue what's on the moon, shouldn't we at least try to get there? And if someone went there and came back telling us about it, shouldn't we at least consider there might be some truth? My advice is that instead of arguing what's real and not, people should try to experience LDs and altered state of consciousness more... and I don't mean a couple, or a dozen, or even a hundred. They should be experienced as a way of life, in thousands and perhaps much more! Then they will see for themselves what's real and not.

Lding Is Not Supernatural, There Are..

16.11.01

You don't really need to focus that much. Just pay attention to them should suffice. One easy to do it is to imagine the senses being different axes. For example, the hearing being the x, the touch being the y, and the sight being on the z axis. Then you would simple direct/scan your attention along these axes. While doing that, you should also make sure you don't try too hard to force things to happen. If you do see, hear or feel things that's great; otherwise just complete the gestures and go to sleep.

How To Remain Focus During The Cycles

16.11.01

Yes, going to sleep normally means you do whatever you normally do to fall asleep. It doesn't matter if you count sheeps or role play. :)

How To Remain Focus During The Cycles

16.10.31

You summed it correctly.

How To Remain Focus During The Cycles

16.10.31

I don't see much difference there. Only difference is that ADA is used to improve self-awareness during the day, not just to form a habit to perform a task.

Does that permanently increase your self-awareness to a level that it kicks in even when suppressed during R.E.M. sleep? Does that increase the presence of neuromodulators, such as acetylcholine? These are questions I cannot answer.

Some people do claim that ADA is effective for them. However, I personally have not yet seen anyone achieving long-term and stable success with that exercise. And please note, the primary benefit advertised by ADA is longer-term and stable success, not sporadic results such as intention settings. People do tend to jump in to credit it when only encountering the later...

__Rc Help Please__

16.10.31

It won't help you. Constantly doing RC during the day will not develop into a habit that can be carried into your dreams. During sleep many regions of the brain are deactivated or suppressed, these include the ones responsible for self-awareness, short-term memories and etc. As the result it's very unlikely for your daily habits to be present in your dreams. For example, most of us have developed the habit to play with mobile phones whenever possible, but how many times do you actually do that in your dreams? Constant RC during the day is largely a waste of time, it is, IMO, the biggest hype in the field of lucid dreaming. You will have much better chance with WBTB plus other on-demand LD induction techniques such as MILD, FILD or SSILD.

__Rc Help Please__

16.10.31

Couldn't have said it better myself. I agree with every points. Mr. Cook has killed the Apple I had loved and evangelized for the past 25 years. I too will stick to the Apple ecosystem for exactly the same reasons you listed, but I no longer love it :(

Macbook Pro (2016) Disappointment Pu..

16.10.31

I'd say only the short ones in the beginning. I've seen some people attempt doing the entire SSILD process while sitting down, but I don't know if these experiments went well or not.

Tricks For Staying Awake

16.10.31

People really need to experience it more, first hand. You won't know water better than a fish, unless you become one yourselves, LOL. Interestingly though, you actually do achieve more LDs if you follow a more systematic and scientific path!

I personally agree with OP. There are more benefits to be gained if one approaches lucid dreaming scientifically. Associating lucid dreams with religious or spiritual meanings, I won't say it's right or wrong, but it does make one more prone to the trickery of the subconscious mind.

Lding Is Not Supernatural, There Are..

16.10.31

Good post. When you have very limited actual experience with LD and other altered states of consciousness, which is the case for most people, it can be really difficult to come to an educated conclusion of their natures. However, once we're able to experience them more frequently we begin to see through their mysteries and learn the subtle properties. Then we are able to tell what they truly are.

Lding Is Not Supernatural, There Are..

16.10.30

Glad it helps. Keep us posted :)

Holding A Stone To Stay Awake During..

16.10.30

Falling asleep too quickly is always a better problem to have when it comes to SSILD. There are a few things to try:

1. Do the quick cycles while sitting up.
2. Lay flat on your back, and cross your hands right under your chest as if performing a ritual.
3. Focus harder during the cycles, especially the eye part.
4. Skip the quick cycles all together.

Tricks For Staying Awake

16.10.30

Yes. Stay relaxed just like how you'd sleep normally. Just give enough focus to the movement of your finger, but don't focus it too much so you can't fall asleep.

Need Help With Fild

16.10.30

FILD works by carrying the physical action into your dreams or any subsequent FAs. Therefore it is better for you to enter sleep quickly. By trying to stay perfectly still you will likely induce sleep paralysis, which turns the exercise into an entirely different technique and destroys the purpose of FILD. Worse, it can simply cause tension and keep you awake. My suggestion is to do FILD in a relaxed manner and try to stay comfortable.

Need Help With Fild

16.10.30

Thank you

New Ssild Sub!

16.10.30

The purpose of the sub is to provide tech support specifically to people trying the technique. Without a centralized place it's next to impossible for me to do that.

More Ssild Tips + Ssild Subreddit

16.10.30

Thank you for promoting the sub. I'd like to add that the main purpose of the sub is to enable better support for people trying out the technique. Ever since I published the article online I've been having a hard time tending to all the questions from users all over the world. The blogging platform is simply not made for such interactions.

It has been a few years since SSILD was born. Many people have become quite good with it and even improved it with their own modifications. For those of you experienced SSILDers, please come and share your experiences to help others. Thank you!

New Ssild Sub!

16.10.30

You were near a WILD. If you do the SSILD cycles long enough without falling asleep, the chance of inducing a WILD is quite high. When you feel the sensations as you enter a WILD, you can often mentally increase its effects. When they become pronounced enough, you can enter the dream.

How Do I Know If Its A Dild Or Wild

16.10.30

Subconscious can be very mischievous. Just live with it and enjoy the unexpected :)

Asking Dream Characters Questions

16.10.29

It looks like you were already in a dream. Next time when that happens, use your hand to interact with it, such as reaching out to grab something. That will pull you right into it.

Rorok How Long Should I Be In Wild T..

16.10.29

Regular reality checks won't help you, unless it's coupled with WBTB of sufficient waking time. Even then it's effectiveness is very questionable. Keep in mind, during R.E.M. Sleep the regions, which handles self-awareness and other important cognitive functions, of your brain are pretty much deactivated or in very suppressed states. Thus, your day time habits and logical mind are unlike to be present. Only after WBTB you reactive these regions, but then you risk not being able to fall back to sleep if you stay awake for too long!

Dream Problem

16.10.29

It's very common and happens mostly because you're not totally relaxed and you tried to stay perfectly still. It is, after all, just an illusion. When that happens and assume you can outlast it, you will delve into a dream directly afterwards. It will be a very rewarding experience.

Why Does My Heart Rate Go Up When Im..

16.10.29

I suspect when you snap back you are already in a state for WILD to occur more easily. See if doing something like this will help... once you snap back, you:

1. Relax your head and allow the back of it to sink into the pillow. You can even force it a little bit.

2 Do a few more relaxed cycle.
3. Very delicately release the stone in your hand, try not engaging your muscles.
4. Assuming you've done step 3 successfully you direct attention to your nose. You should feel some pressure on it.

5. Again, without involving your muscles you raise your hand and move it toward your nose. Don't worry if it seems like you are gliding through and rubbing against the blanket.

6. Pinch your nose and see if you can breathe. If you can indeed breathe you are in a dream and by this time you have directed your focus into it (instead of reality.)

7. Gently pull yourself up toward the direction of your hand and you should be in a WILD/OBE whatever you prefer to call it.

If you fail at step 3, say, it's impossible for you to control your hand without using muscles then you can repeat step 1 and 2 then try again. Or of course, just go back to sleep.

Moving your hand without muscle sounds like something difficult to do. It indeed is when you're fully awake. However, in that delicate SSILD-induced waking state it is not at all impossible. For me and many others, it is even possible to accomplish that after we've physically moved. You can trust SSILD has conditioned your mind and body properly for that to happen. Hope this helps! Your experiment is very interesting! Good work! :)

Holding A Stone To Stay Awake During..

16.10.29

I feel it is not clear and concise in the writing. Also there are additional info I'd like to throw in, such as my hypothesis on why it works and instructions on inducing WILDs etc. I plan to revise it or write something else soon, but first I have to find a better blogging platform. Blogger is just downright horrible.

What.. Is.. Ssild

16.10.29

It's actually quite common. SSILD does tend to create this kind of state... which I wouldn't call it FA because normal RC can indeed fail. It's something that borders on real awakening. If you think you are awake then you truly are; otherwise you enter the dream by gently and mentally raise your hand.

How Does It Work And Self Awarness

16.10.28

That's nothing. I peed in front of two girls last night... I think it's safe to say that's not something I'd do consciously. LOL

Can The Dream Version Of You Have A ..

16.10.28

Wow. I think you might have discovered good tricks. Holding a stone in your hand not only keeps you awake during cycles, the tactile feedback might make it easier to do the cycles too. I'm very interested in the progress you will make via this. Please keep us posted!

The sensations you've felt indicates that you're extremely close to entering a dream. In fact you were probably already in it (as well as some FAs). As you gain more experience with these sensations you will learn to utilize them to create successful dream entry!

Holding A Stone To Stay Awake During..

16.10.28

MILD is effective. Studies have shown that. I'd say if you're doing MILD then there is not much need to train your perspective memory during the day. During R.E.M. Sleep your dorsolateral prefrontal cortex, which contributes to our self awareness, is deactivated. The same region, if I'm not mistaken, is also critical in supporting time-based prospective memory. Without doing WBTB first it is very unlikely for your perspective memory to kick in. Of course, it is possible that your will increase your chance if you combine WBTB with diligent day-time prospective memory training, but to what extent? Is it worth it? I personally, in my 25+ years of lucid dreaming, have not experienced or observed significant result associated with day-time routines. They do work to some small degree, but the effort required is just not worth it. WBTB combined with MILD will be much more effective. The technique SSILD, which I developed in 2011, once mastered, can also increase chance significantly.

What Am I Doing Wrong

16.10.28

Because that method doesn't work! It's what I call the greatest myth/hype in lucid dreaming. Know this: without regaining sufficient self-awareness and other forms of cognitive functions of higher orders, we are not much more than a puppet in our dreams. Our actions in dreams are largely involuntary and our behaviors are very unpredictable. Our memories are also suppressed and even manipulated, replaced. In other word, that "self" in your dream is hardly the same person! Thus, those habits you develop during the day are rarely carried into your dreams. When they do, they often are there to serve some specific need of your subconscious, and such instances are rare. My suggestion is to not waste your time doing those things during the day. You will have much better chance with WBTB combined with more on-demand type LD techniques.

What Am I Doing Wrong

16.10.28

The later case

What Is The Limit To Time Dilation I..

16.10.28

It's only less real when one wakes up and that imprinted memory fades

What Is The Limit To Time Dilation I..

16.10.28

It's very much like what you'd described

What Is The Limit To Time Dilation I..

16.10.28

It's just an impression of time, imprinted in your dream memory, sort of like a backstory so you can act according to the "script." Dreams have very little continuity and as such the concept of time is very different from the waking life. Inception is just a movie and does not portray dreams accurately. It has a lot of entertainment value but it's not real.

What Is The Limit To Time Dilation I..

16.10.28

The painful sensation you experienced is caused by trying to stay completely still. Before your brain goes to sleep, it needs to make sure that the body is asleep first. It accomplishes this by creating a brief yet extremely uncomfortable sensation. If your body does not respond to this the brain then knows it's safe to go to sleep too. Usually if you can resist the discomfort you will slip right into a dream while being fully awake. However, this is easier said than done, as you have already experienced.

To relax doesn't mean you have to be completely still. In fact it's often the opposite. There is no better way to relax than simply making yourself comfortable!

WILD can be much more easily achieved with your mind/body properly conditioned. The dream entry techniques are far less important than good conditioning techniques. Simply trying to relax can be hard to do and often have opposite effects, as you've experienced. Based on my own experience, the "cycles" as described in SSILD can serve as a very effective conditioning tool. I suggest you try them first, followed by your WILD routines. This way your WILD will require much less effort, and even when it fails you may end up having a DILD later.

Hope this helps.

Hurts To Keep Brain Awake

16.10.27

That's a good one!

Question What Inspired You To Do Luc..

16.10.27

Afternoon naps may be too short for SSILD to work properly. On our forum I have seen a few people doing it successfully, but they usually get up very early in the morning so their afternoon naps are probably filled with loads of REM due to the rebound effect. For short naps you might want to do SSILD cycles followed by some dream entry techniques to induce WILD. The cycles will make it a lot easier for you to perform the dream entry techniques effectively.

I find it is often harder to fall asleep if you desire it to happen. That thought alone can keep you awake! I'd say you should not think about falling asleep. Keep your mind occupied instead of trying to empty it. Fill it with wandering thoughts, maybe role playing a little bit. See if that works for you.

How Does It Work And Self Awarness

16.10.27

There is a lot of myth in these mindfulness, all-day awareness stuff. The theories are very sound and people instinctively accept them and many see them as the holy grail of lucid dreaming. People who actually try them and receive a few LDs also tend to swear by them, even though those LDs probably have little to do with the practice and the result is never sustainable. Yes, this is the biggest hype in the field of lucid dreaming and anyone dare to challenge it always gets flamed. Ask how I know that, LOL. I won't go into length here... just think about this: will you learn how to swim if you never get into water? Do what you know about the land also apply to the water? The answer is obviously NO. They are two different environments and have different governing laws/physics. Reality and dream are also like that. What seems logical in waking life doesn't necessarily hold true in dreams. A technique that seems to "make sense" may actually be senseless.

Morty 1+ Month Of Mindfulness Has Go..

16.10.27

Nowadays I focus more on investigating many forms of altered/higher state of consciousness. Lucid dreams serve as a good launching platform for that study.

With SSILD, LD induction has become much easier, even for myself. Prior to SSILD I was able to induce LDs at will, primarily via WILD. However, the effort required to do that was rather high, and there were times I simply didn't feel like doing it. SSILD has changed that. It has become a habit for me to perform a few cycles after a few hours of sleep. Then upon subsequent awakening (for me it's almost always real awakening), I simply shift my focus into the dream state and within seconds I'm in an LD. This process, shall I say, is about as effortless as it goes, for me personally anyway. As the result the number of lucid dreams I receive remains very high without incurring a toll on me physically or mentally.

Yes I am Chinese-American and live in New York nowadays. :)

Cheers

Can Confirm Ssild Is A Gift From The..

16.10.27

Thank you for promoting it :) I just wanted to clarify it with you because I had previously been accused by some malicious person who claimed that I wanted to profit from the technique, which of course was not true. We're good. Thanks again!

Can Confirm Ssild Is A Gift From The..

16.10.27

Tibetan Dream Yoga's main focus has always been what you do within the dreams, never so much in terms of induction techniques and there isn't a great number of variations. I wonder exactly where in Dream Yoga you read about similar techniques and how you came to the conclusion that this is just a "repackage." I'd very much like to see a quote for that. Besides, lucid dreaming has been practiced for thousands of years in many forms. In a way you can find similarities between all modern day techniques and traditional methods.

SSILD was developed with the sole purpose to help people struggling with lucid dreaming, and no-one is profiting from it. I posted the method into public domain and that's it. I haven't even been online that much ever since I did it. Whether you like it or not is your own business, that has always been the attitude from me. I didn't "want you to think it's a magical Chinese method." The popularity of the method pretty much came by itself. I wasn't pushing it.

Can Confirm Ssild Is A Gift From The..

16.10.26

I believe it does. This increased self-awareness may be the reason why failed SSILD attempts often result in dreams within which one receives supernatural abilities such as flying and telekinesis. My speculation is that in normal dreams we have very low level self-awareness, to the point we are more or less just following a "script." However, once our self-awareness begins to rise, we start to have thoughts occurring outside of the script. For example, you see something and you begin to wonder, hey, I want that. Whereas in the "script" you are not supposed to think like that. Given that dream world is very volatile that thought may just suddenly result in the object flying toward you, thus the telekinesis! SSILD cycles are an excellent tool to condition your mind and body for altered state of consciousness, I believe. Thus I see no reason why it can't be used as a part of your meditation routines!

How Does It Work And Self Awarness

16.10.26

It stands for Senses Initiated Lucid Dreaming. It's a technique to induce lucid dreams. You're welcome to check out my blog post, although it's a little outdated and not actively maintained: http://cosmiciron.blogspot.com/2013/01/senses-initiated-lucid-dream-ssild_16.html?m=1

What.. Is.. Ssild

16.10.26

I think it's safe to say that no lucid dreaming technique works for everyone, and SSILD is no exception. However, there are techniques that work better and worse. As for SSILD producing FAs I believe that's majority of the case according to my observation. Of course each person is different. I myself for example, being a light sleeper, rarely get real FAs either. However, these real awakenings (after performing SSILD) often can be easily manipulated into OBEs. Without doing SSILD prior to them, however, they are much more difficult to manipulate. This leads me to believe that SSILD does condition one's mind/body to a state that's more optimal for resulting in altered state of consciousness, regardless of the intentions. Can SSILD be used to trigger LDs without the slightest intention for them? That I don't know. But I feel it is probably not very relevant because the sole purpose of this technique is to help people increase their chance of inducing LDs. As science cannot yet truly comprehend the hows and whys of lucid dreaming itself, I always feel that the discussion of "how" a particular technique works are perhaps more speculative in nature. The original name of SSILD, translated from Chinese, is actually "A mysterious method" because we fully recognized the fact that we had no idea why it worked. I don't actually mind keeping it that way, LOL.

I May Have Found A New Technique.

16.10.26

Certainly!

I May Have Found A New Technique.

16.10.26

Not in the form of scientific studies, if that's what you meant. However, recently I was contacted by a science researcher who has conducted some research over the past 3 years and he was able to confirm SSILD's effectiveness. I'm still curious and eagerly waiting to read his paper.

Personally, I see a few differences between SSILD and plain-old intention setting:

1. SSILD works over a consistent long period of time, whereas intentions don't (at least for most people)

2. SSILD causes frequent super-realistic false awakenings. This is almost a "trademark" quality now recognized "worldwide". Simple intention-setting doesn't seem to accomplish that.

3. SSILD tends to improve vividness of normal dreams and their recalls. Again, merely setting intentions doesn't seem to directly result in that.

4. When SSILD fails to produce DILD or FA, and even when one completely wakes up and physically moved, one can still remain in a subtle mind/body state that can be more easily utilized to create direct dream entry. Again, this doesn't hold true with intentions.

SSILD is actually a community-driven project. It was tested by hundreds of people on the Chinese lucid dreaming forum when it was first introduced, and subsequently refined. Many people contributed their experiences and we recorded thousands of successful cases. These people ranged from newbies to experts, and many of them had used combinations of intention-setting and other traditional techniques. And SSILD did make a difference for them! For example, there is one guy who practiced lucid dreaming for a year, utilizing just about every techniques (including non-stop intention-setting and affirmations during the day). In that year he managed to receive no more than a dozen LDs. However, once he started using SSILD, he recorded over 550 LDs in less than a year! His detailed recording is an invaulable learning tool and we recommend everyone new to our forum to read it. And this is not an isolated case. On that forum we now see many people with the ability to induce multiple LDs on a daily basis, all due to their use of SSILD. Can intention-setting achieve similar result? I honestly don't know the answer, but based on my own experience and observation of others I suspect that may not be the case.

I May Have Found A New Technique.

16.10.26

Transition to dreams can take many forms. For example, they can form out of random thoughts. They can also grow out of hypnagogic sensations. They can also be created on-demand via visualization techniques... to name a few.

How Is The Transition Into A Dream S..

16.10.26

Yes it's phenomenon which I prefer to call "Focus Point of Self-consciousness." It's basically where you place your self-existence. In a dream, physical reality, or somewhere in between? By learning to shift this focus point it's possible to instantly shift into dream-like state from being wide awake. It's also possible to stay in between. Very interesting stuff indeed!

Anybody Get This When Lucid Dreaming

16.10.26

Glad it helps! I do believe, both from my own experience and observation on many others, that frequent and even at-will LD induction can be achieved by mastering this simple technique. Better yet, it's something that requires relatively little effort so it can actually become a habit.

I May Have Found A New Technique.

16.10.26

I love you, for liking SSILD ;-)

I May Have Found A New Technique.

16.10.26

I say you're well on track because you have been observing changes in dream qualities. Usually it means you are getting closer: try wake up a little more or apply a little bit more focus during the long cycles might just do the trick. Also make sure you allow sufficient amount of sleep first. Without them you could end up forgetting those LDs even when they do occur.

First Post

16.10.26

This kind of experience is actually quite common among SSILD users. SSILD is a tool to condition the mind/body. If you let go in the end it does its thing while you sleep. However, if one tries to hang on after the cycles it is very possible for him or her to experience what's described here. In fact, this is exactly how I, prior to developing SSILD, managed to WILD. SSILD was developed from these routines once I realized that the important part is not the visualizations or whatever you perform at the end of the cycles to form/enter the dream. It is actually the cycles that make this work! Without conditioning your mind/body first, it's very hard to perform any techniques effectively, be it visualizations, imagining physical movement, or other traditional techniques such as those described by Robert Monroe... However, once your mind/body is prepped with the cycles, all those techniques become a lot easier to execute! Of course, "easy" is a relative term... Anyway, after this realization I decided to chop the WILD part from my routines and only retained the cycles, thus SSild was born.

I May Have Found A New Technique.

16.10.26

Better yet -- don't "look" at all! Just paying some attention to them is good enough. In fact, just mentally telling yourself "I'm now focusing on sight" could be sufficient. This relaxed approach is not as powerful/effective as a more focused approach, but it won't have the side effect of causing difficulty to sleep. As people become more experienced they will have less trouble going to sleep. They can then experiment with increasing the level of focus in order to optimize the effect.

Doubt About Cycles

16.10.26

Yes, all should be done with your eyes closed. And 30-seconds is really just a reference. You don't have to be exact and when your mind starts to wander you just take as long as it needs... or if you forget and skip, that's also fine.

Doubt About Cycles

16.10.26

LOL,. Not doing at least some portion of the slow cycles can indeed be problematic. I recommend the following:

Lie on the bed with a different posture. For example, if you usually sleep on the side, try lie flat on your back while doing the cycles. Better yet, position your hands differently. For example, cross them and place them under your chest as if performing some kind of ritual. Once you are through the "ritual" you can turn to the side and sleep normally.

Normally I wouldn't recommend this, but given your particular problem I say it's possible to skip the short cycles. They are used to help people relax and warm up to the long ones without causing too much tension. But in your particular case you might want do with them. In fact that's what the first version of SSILD was, and it was I fact more "powerful" than the current version (with the short cycles added to it).

Without the short cycles, and assume you have done the long cycles sufficiently, sometimes you will SNAP awake from your sleep. It's a very strange sensation: your mind is super clear, and you feel wide awake. At the same time you cannot feel your physical body and you know right away you are in a FA/OBE or whatever you call it. The current version of SSILD no longer produces this kind of effect because the short cycles somewhat "dilute" it. Anyway, if falling back to sleep isn't a problem it might worth trying :)

Hope this helps!

First Post

16.10.26

That's actually the spirit of it. I don't use alarm either. SSILD uses a relaxed approach, not just in terms of the technique itself, but toward lucid dreaming in general. Make it a habit and do it causally without disturbing your normal sleep patterns, and lucid dreams will sooner or later occur. And they WILL come in abundance! On the Chinese forum I've seen many people achieving lucidity on a daily basis by making this technique a part of their lives!

First Post

16.10.25

Without knowing your routine it is actually hard to diagnose your problem. When SSILD is performed correctly it almost always has some kind of effect on your dreams -- LDs, OBEs, FAs, or flying/telekinesis dreams. I've created a sub-reddit called SSILD so it's easier for me to provide some (limited) tech-support for people trying the method. Please feel free to visit it and post your routine there so I can help you diagnose. Cheers!

Sstrugling With Ssild. Advice

16.10.24

Yes it is totally fine to give yourself verbal instructions. SSILD is a very forgiving technique and that's what sets it apart from others. You seem to be applying too much effort on "focusing" though. Just cycle through the senses regardless of what you actually see, hear and feel. It's the "gestures" that are more important. Even just telling yourself "I'm now focusing on hearing..." should be sufficient. Having said that, after you quickly go through a few cycles it actually becomes a lot easier for you to actually focus, and you may even experience various sensations. Do keep in mind -- the sensations are nice, but they are not mandatory.

Lucid Dream Ssild Tips

16.10.24

我就来打个酱油

【征召吧务】欢迎大家前来报名

16.10.23

说太玄太累，说明没做对，没理解啊。

新手，太玄功两晚自然出体，特来感谢。..

16.10.10

回复skyxiao_ming：这种情况是因为梦境还不够深化，可以采用一些深化梦境的方法，比如搓手、爬地板、开门等等

《太玄功教程》V3.0

16.10.05

有奸细

[公告]关于撤销梦中木屋吧主管理权限的..

16.10.03

你可能之前清醒的过头了。另外不要太用力的去关注，照猫画虎做几下就够了，尽快睡着

太玄经神功本帮秘笈

16.09.26

好东西！祝贺！

【忆梦三部曲】——一套完整的忆梦方法..

16.09.18

都看到两个身体了，我想应该已经可以起身了。但是身上还发麻，心脏剧烈跳动，这似乎又是刚刚进入状态的感觉，还有待深化。下次你可以尝试捏鼻子，如果能够捏住鼻子还能呼吸，那就说明状态已经足够了，可以起身了。

《太玄功教程》V3.0

16.09.17

鱼肉我不喜欢。要是红烧肉就好了

[梦友千里来相会]__梦境友谊记录簿!

16.07.09

为什么是月黑风高的场景……

[梦友千里来相会]__梦境友谊记录簿!

16.07.04

回复夢行者DREAM：难怪现实中这种场景对于我越来越少了，都去了你们梦里了……

[梦友千里来相会]__梦境友谊记录簿!

16.07.04

那几篇写的一般，我懒得给他翻译了

走近大师系列（一）开局四法

16.06.30

可不是吗。所以，真正的修行其实是在生活中的点滴呀

“夜晚打坐数星星第二阶段记梦贴”

16.06.08

回复心之旅途：他这个关键字确实少了点......

“夜晚打坐数星星第二阶段记梦贴”

16.06.03

回复yayisansai：对呀，这就是我说的那种情况。这些背景材料是一次性植入的。所以我们在梦里并不完全是我们白天的自己。要不为什么我一直反对白天的知梦练习呢？你都不是你自己了，那些练习能有啥用呢。是吧？

梦里的时间比现实快还是慢？(转自壹心..

16.06.02

我觉得他这个只是一些特例。因为梦境中时间过的快的情况也是有的，比如所谓的南柯一梦呀。其实很多时候梦中的所谓时间，是一次性的把各种体验、记忆写到脑子里面去的。所以完全可能出现在很短的物理时间里体验到仿佛过了很久的感觉。利用清醒梦去研究梦，固然是一条捷径，但是由于清醒梦本身就是梦的一种特殊形式，所以恐怕还不能用来概括全部。

梦里的时间比现实快还是慢？(转自壹心..

16.06.02

一段时间内状态不好，这在清明梦领域里是很常见的是，英文里管它叫做dryspell。为什么会出现这种现象呢？一方面，人的身心状态是在不断变化中的。机械的去用同样的方法，无异于刻舟求剑，计划跟不上变化。另一方面，不讲科学不行。瞎胡来、蛮干，只会导致身心疲惫，状态低迷。我的经验是，遇到这种情况，最好让自己休息一段时间，调整身心的状态。用一个礼拜的时间，不要去做清明梦的练习，哪怕自我感觉很好，也不要去做。只做一件事即可，就是半夜醒来的时候记一下梦（关键字）。其它的什么都不要做。一个礼拜以后，再根据自己的睡眠周期，科学的定制自己的练习时间表

“夜晚打坐数星星第二阶段记梦贴”

16.05.31

要想异步法成功，最好不要结合太玄，因为太玄的切换动作会令你的身体警醒，就很难引发翻身信号了。至于处在那种临界点的时候感受到的东西，可以说是千奇百怪的，没有必要去追究什么，只管放心体验就好啦

隔壁老王养条鱼的记梦贴

16.05.30

月球上有没有神奇的东西，当然有啊。但是你上不去那里，那就只能停留在道听途说的层面。意识领域也是如此，而清明梦则是你登月的飞船。

“夜晚打坐数星星第二阶段记梦贴”

16.05.28

也挺好，对这种状态又多了些经验，以后就更容易捕捉啦

“夜晚打坐数星星第二阶段记梦贴”

16.05.27

是啊。命运在于选择。

海鸥乔纳森

16.05.24

在于你想用梦手达到什么目的

“夜晚打坐数星星第二阶段记梦贴”

16.05.24

这句话含义很模糊....

“夜晚打坐数星星第二阶段记梦贴”

16.05.22

回复夜晚打坐数星星：会。被我弄死

“夜晚打坐数星星第二阶段记梦贴”

16.05.20

谁叫你躺下就练的。找死啊！

“夜晚打坐数星星第二阶段记梦贴”

16.05.20

是啊，这就是翻身信号。可惜....

“夜晚打坐数星星第二阶段记梦贴”

16.05.19

对，这就是清醒入梦的方式之一！就是通过不断的把模糊的意识拉回来，这么拉锯，拉着拉着就进入状态了

“夜晚打坐数星星第二阶段记梦贴”

16.05.18

一两次偶然的成功说明不了什么问题。造成成功的因素也可能不是表面上那样。他昨天做梦突然问了那么一句，就归功于他日常的练习了。请问，他是否能从此保证每天如此呢？从另一个角度来说，有没有可能是他在那个梦里意识恢复到了接近白天的状态，以致于能够想起来这么做呢？其实这种日常验梦的说法早已有之，然而我们从未见过什么长期成功的记录，无论国内还是国外。如果它真的可行有效，还发明那么多其它的方法干吗呢？清明梦领域总是有一帮家伙，想当然的去理解、盲目的去相信。偶尔成功个一两次就迫不及待的总结，恨不得就成为权威了。这种家伙大有人在，我对他们早没有耐心和同情了。

【我要成为一代梦控师！】——红灵金的..

16.05.18

有悟性！

被强制授精的烦恼

16.05.15

好不容易啊

被强制授精的烦恼

16.05.14

现实中我好意思要的。快拿来！

被强制授精的烦恼

16.05.14

哇！你都12级了！这都有多少精啊！

被强制授精的烦恼

16.05.14

那就睡下时提醒自己一下

“夜晚打坐数星星第二阶段记梦贴”

16.05.14

更弱智的就又得到回复了

被强制授精的烦恼

16.05.14

罪魁祸首

被强制授精的烦恼

16.05.14

忽然之间，好久未关注的贴吧动态上多了不少对我的回复提示。打开一看，原来是因为自己有一篇文章在梦吧被加精了。对这篇文章被加精，我是有些看法的，随即在吧友的楼中做了回复，但是不知什么原因却被系统删帖了。没有办法，只好干脆另起炉灶，发篇新帖吧。

那篇文章是关于号召大家忘记出体这个概念的。意思并不错，但是文章本身有两大问题：

1、有错别字。把AstralProjection（星体投射）写成Astro了。这是不该犯的低级错误。
2、其中有一句，说星体投射是不同层次的东西。这个有一个严重的概念问题。请大家注意，该文是我刚到梦吧时写的第一篇文章。在那个时候，大家的水平都并不高，绝大多数人对于清醒梦还只是耳闻而已。而我也是初来乍到，还不敢太过放肆。语出惊人的话，怕大家接受不了。所以，对于星体投射这个概念，我只是沿用了传统的说法，并没有像后来一样（尤其是在和蚂蚁论战之后，决定彻底放开了去表达我自己的认识）对它提出我自己的看法和颠覆。那么这样一来，这篇文章其实在理念上并不纯粹。和之后的很多文章既不能一脉相承，在价值上也没法比的。

综上所述，该篇文章其实真的毫无加精的必要，还不如让它永不见天日。但是既然已经被翻出来了，我就在此说明一下，以免大家看了被误导。

顺带也向大家问好。这两年业务繁忙，加上觉得该说的、能说的也都说的差不多了，想见好就收，所以来的便少了。请大家多包涵。但是只要at我的，如果不是太弱智的问题，我一般都还是会响应的;-)

Cheers！

被强制授精的烦恼

16.05.14

一楼防抽

被强制授精的烦恼

16.05.14

这真是特别好的状态

【心须静，境须清】记梦贴

16.05.11

回复夜晚打坐数星星：捏鼻也没用，一定是动的肉身。必须用焦点转换

“夜晚打坐数星星第二阶段记梦贴”

16.05.09

其实你每次的所谓真醒也不尽然是真醒。对于一般人来说那就是真醒，但是对于熟悉了意识更微妙的状态（尤其是掌握了意识焦点）的人来说，那不算真醒，因为还差一毫米。为什么你觉得是真醒呢，因为两个条件：1、思维非常清晰了，完全具备日间的清晰度。如果这时候睁开眼就是真醒了，思维、智商没有折扣，状态没有差异2、能清晰感受到床上和周边小环境的状态，非常真实。但是问题其实在于，在这一刻感受到的物质世界的状态，其实并不是真的，但是它极为接近真的。为什么呢？因为那个第一条--你的日间思维已经完全恢复了。所以在这个时候，你清楚知道自己躺在床上，甚至以什么姿势，被子怎么盖的等等，都知道。那么它们这些形态就会对应到你的意识中。也许你这时候手是埋在被子里的，可能你还能感受到被单的摩擦，甚至举都举不起来。但是等你把手从被子里拿出来以后你就觉得它变成梦手了，可以捏鼻成功了，不是吗？其实就是这么回事。当然，我说的这个也不是绝对的。运用大招的时候，确实存在完全真醒，甚至都爬起来了还能瞬间入梦的情况。那是另一回事了。

“夜晚打坐数星星第二阶段记梦贴”

16.05.09